3d Mark 2003!

phr4gmonk3y · 14-02-2003, 02:53 AM

Futuremark, formerly Mad Onion, has released the new 3dmark. to get it goto www.futuremark.com. I got 3279 with a 1.9Ghz, 256ddr, and a Radeon 9500 pro. Be warned, the download will take a shitload of time, because everyone wants it. i suggest going here .

harrack52 · 14-02-2003, 03:34 AM

I get 90k/s downloading from guru3d. (that's with a 1mg adsl connection, the max I usually get is 120-130k/s, so 90 is pretty high....if you want something to relate to)

Big B · 14-02-2003, 12:52 PM

The file is pretty large in itself to boot. I think that nVidia has some deal with Futuremark that could really invalidate 3DMark03 and future versions from being a solid staple. At this point in time, I'm not sure I'll be using it (3DM03) in future reviews. That and companies are tweaking their drivers to score higher on a benchmark than actual games---which is hosing the end user.

harrack52 · 14-02-2003, 02:10 PM

true, I read the article you posted, but if it's true for 3dmark 03, it's probably true for 3dmark2001se too. Anyway, I can't run most of the tests

Does that mean that ATI still builds the best graphic cards out there ? Is there a way to know without running a benchmark ?

Big B · 14-02-2003, 03:15 PM

Half of it's probably still true. Both nVidia and ATi were caught with their pants down tweaking drivers for 3DMark 2001 or Quake 3. The nVidia team up with Futuremark is pretty recent.

Right now ATi has the upper hand with their latest Radeon's having DX9 hardware support. In that sense, yes, it is the best. The GeForce FX isn't available, nor has the best drivers for the chip currently. By the time they hit, it may be king for awhile. Of course, ATi has their R350 and RV350 chips in the works as well, and they should hit within the next 6 months.

Without a benchmark program, yes. You do still have to run some sort of test to compare with, such as a game like Quake 3 or it's variants (RtCW, Jedi Knight II) or Unreal Tournament 2003 and the like. Or an app like a rendering program or CAD, CAM, etc.

I'd like to get something fairly recent, but that's probably not gonna happen until the site comes up again. When it does, I should have some more free time to do reviews.

RZA · 17-02-2003, 03:08 PM

I just tested and I got 918 3dmarks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=215264

anyone knows why only the first sound test worked,after that it crashed giving me some error but I still had the 3dmarks

Big B · 17-02-2003, 03:22 PM

Not sure.

That benchmark is made to slap your system silly, and even systems equipped with a DX9 card, like the Radeon 95/9700 cards still get a beating. So far, I haven't seen anything that scores over 6k at the default res.

harrack52 · 17-02-2003, 03:22 PM

I had 168

only the first test worked

14-02-2003, 02:53 AM	#1 (permalink) Top
phr4gmonk3y Geek Trainee Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 19 Posts: 16 Status: Offline	3d Mark 2003! Futuremark, formerly Mad Onion, has released the new 3dmark. to get it goto www.futuremark.com. I got 3279 with a 1.9Ghz, 256ddr, and a Radeon 9500 pro. Be warned, the download will take a shitload of time, because everyone wants it. i suggest going here .

14-02-2003, 12:52 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,640 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	The file is pretty large in itself to boot. I think that nVidia has some deal with Futuremark that could really invalidate 3DMark03 and future versions from being a solid staple. At this point in time, I'm not sure I'll be using it (3DM03) in future reviews. That and companies are tweaking their drivers to score higher on a benchmark than actual games---which is hosing the end user. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

14-02-2003, 03:15 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,640 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	Half of it's probably still true. Both nVidia and ATi were caught with their pants down tweaking drivers for 3DMark 2001 or Quake 3. The nVidia team up with Futuremark is pretty recent. Right now ATi has the upper hand with their latest Radeon's having DX9 hardware support. In that sense, yes, it is the best. The GeForce FX isn't available, nor has the best drivers for the chip currently. By the time they hit, it may be king for awhile. Of course, ATi has their R350 and RV350 chips in the works as well, and they should hit within the next 6 months. Without a benchmark program, yes. You do still have to run some sort of test to compare with, such as a game like Quake 3 or it's variants (RtCW, Jedi Knight II) or Unreal Tournament 2003 and the like. Or an app like a rendering program or CAD, CAM, etc. I'd like to get something fairly recent, but that's probably not gonna happen until the site comes up again. When it does, I should have some more free time to do reviews. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

17-02-2003, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink) Top
RZA l337 CounterStriker Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 22 Posts: 209 Status: Offline	I just tested and I got 918 3dmarks http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=215264 anyone knows why only the first sound test worked,after that it crashed giving me some error but I still had the 3dmarks __________________ AMD XP 1500+@1,45ghz Elitegroup K7VZA 3.4 Geforce 3 Ti 200 128 DDRAM Creative Audigy 2 with Logitech Z-640 speakers Philips dvd/cdrw combo 32x/10x/40x/12x(dvd) 512mb ram 145mhz fsb WD 80gb with 8mb cache 3dmark score 7341

17-02-2003, 03:22 PM	#7 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,640 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	Not sure. That benchmark is made to slap your system silly, and even systems equipped with a DX9 card, like the Radeon 95/9700 cards still get a beating. So far, I haven't seen anything that scores over 6k at the default res. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

14-02-2003, 03:34 AM	#2 (permalink) Top
harrack52 Supreme Geek Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 1,638 Times Helpful: 16 My Mood: Sick Status: Offline My Computer	I get 90k/s downloading from guru3d. (that's with a 1mg adsl connection, the max I usually get is 120-130k/s, so 90 is pretty high....if you want something to relate to)

14-02-2003, 02:10 PM	#4 (permalink) Top
harrack52 Supreme Geek Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 1,638 Times Helpful: 16 My Mood: Sick Status: Offline My Computer	true, I read the article you posted, but if it's true for 3dmark 03, it's probably true for 3dmark2001se too. Anyway, I can't run most of the tests Does that mean that ATI still builds the best graphic cards out there ? Is there a way to know without running a benchmark ?

17-02-2003, 03:22 PM	#8 (permalink) Top
harrack52 Supreme Geek Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 1,638 Times Helpful: 16 My Mood: Sick Status: Offline My Computer	I had 168 only the first test worked

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