thanks for the info on the ram..also i realize 1 gb is ample for most heavy gaming, im a little bit of a special case.. as it is now i usually run a few programs at once...ie-ventrillo-server and client, winamp, morpheus, limewire, and one game.. the only time my system really bogs down is when im playing a mmorpg, and i try to run more than one instance of it at the same time..(ie log into two different accounts and play both at once). that kills my system.plus i find it better to get overkill and not upgrade for a while than get what works for the time being and upgrade constantly...just how i like to do things..ive currently got 1gb of ram and back when i bought it everyone was telling me "oh thats way too much youll never need that much ram"...well..eventually they all upgraded and i sat back happy with my rig... anyway enough ranting i should probably get some work done... thanks again for all the help and ill post and let ya know how it works out..