ABS Vs Regular Brakes

Mack · 29-09-2004, 10:24 PM

Couple of months ago, on the history channel, a documentory showed that the concept of abs brakes, currently used in cars, was actually taken from air crafts.
Now I wonder what is the difference between the regular brakes and the abs brakes, in terms of mechanics and efficiency?

Mack · 29-09-2004, 10:01 PM

Reading from the following link,.. ABS doesn't look that promising

http://www.brennanlaw.com/lemonlaw/absjury.htm

ninja fetus · 29-09-2004, 10:29 PM

It comes pretty much standard on every car!

harrack52 · 30-09-2004, 08:24 AM

ABS(Anti-lock Braking System) keeps the wheels from blocking while applying the brakes hard. The advantages of this is it gives you the ability to steer your car to avoid obstacles. However, it also adds to your braking distance.

Again, ABS isn't designed to shorten your braking distance, but to give you the ability to steer while breaking hard, even on snow or ice (up to a certain point).

A while ago I had heard of another system called IBS (Intelligent Braking System). What it did is it calculated the fastest speed at which every wheel could go while braking without losing the ability to steer the car. It is a lot more efficient than ABS since ABS does not really keep the wheels from blocking, it only releases the pressure oftenly to give the llusion that the wheel continues to spin.
From what I understand, IBS uses a much much more sophisticated algorithm to calculate the speed of each wheel, which in return makes the price probably too high to have it implemented on everyday cars.

Mack · 30-09-2004, 04:24 PM

So, the main purpose of ABS is to provide control by keeping the car in balance during a brake.
As far as balancing is concerened, I heard BMW had a new balancing system installed in its cars. The system keeps the car in balance, during turns (and I think brakes too) by means of a computer system that keeps on changing the power to the wheels.
I don't think they are going to need abs,..hehe

ninja fetus · 01-10-2004, 02:15 AM

Mack, yeah I heard about the beamers with balancing...kinda weird but logical!

Mack · 01-10-2004, 05:26 PM

Well they gotta put something in those luxury cars to bring them at par with the price,...

Big B · 01-10-2004, 09:26 PM

That is true. BMW and Mercedes have some really slick braking systems that use electronics to independently control each wheel's braking. I forget the details, but I remember hearing something about this years back from my dad who happens to be a former BMW and current Benz mechanic. Keep in mind I remember him telling me this in the 4th grade, and I graduated HS back in 2000.

29-09-2004, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
Mack Big Geek Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Male Posts: 280 Status: Offline My Computer	ABS Vs Regular Brakes Couple of months ago, on the history channel, a documentory showed that the concept of abs brakes, currently used in cars, was actually taken from air crafts. Now I wonder what is the difference between the regular brakes and the abs brakes, in terms of mechanics and efficiency?

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Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,636 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	That is true. BMW and Mercedes have some really slick braking systems that use electronics to independently control each wheel's braking. I forget the details, but I remember hearing something about this years back from my dad who happens to be a former BMW and current Benz mechanic. Keep in mind I remember him telling me this in the 4th grade, and I graduated HS back in 2000. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

29-09-2004, 10:01 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
Mack Big Geek Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Male Posts: 280 Status: Offline My Computer	Reading from the following link,.. ABS doesn't look that promising http://www.brennanlaw.com/lemonlaw/absjury.htm

29-09-2004, 10:29 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 18 Male Posts: 3,525 Times Helpful: 70 Status: Offline My Computer	It comes pretty much standard on every car!

30-09-2004, 08:24 AM	#4 (permalink) Top
harrack52 Supreme Geek Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 1,638 Times Helpful: 16 My Mood: Sick Status: Offline My Computer	ABS(Anti-lock Braking System) keeps the wheels from blocking while applying the brakes hard. The advantages of this is it gives you the ability to steer your car to avoid obstacles. However, it also adds to your braking distance. Again, ABS isn't designed to shorten your braking distance, but to give you the ability to steer while breaking hard, even on snow or ice (up to a certain point). A while ago I had heard of another system called IBS (Intelligent Braking System). What it did is it calculated the fastest speed at which every wheel could go while braking without losing the ability to steer the car. It is a lot more efficient than ABS since ABS does not really keep the wheels from blocking, it only releases the pressure oftenly to give the llusion that the wheel continues to spin. From what I understand, IBS uses a much much more sophisticated algorithm to calculate the speed of each wheel, which in return makes the price probably too high to have it implemented on everyday cars.

30-09-2004, 04:24 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
Mack Big Geek Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Male Posts: 280 Status: Offline My Computer	So, the main purpose of ABS is to provide control by keeping the car in balance during a brake. As far as balancing is concerened, I heard BMW had a new balancing system installed in its cars. The system keeps the car in balance, during turns (and I think brakes too) by means of a computer system that keeps on changing the power to the wheels. I don't think they are going to need abs,..hehe

01-10-2004, 02:15 AM	#6 (permalink) Top
ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 18 Male Posts: 3,525 Times Helpful: 70 Status: Offline My Computer	Mack, yeah I heard about the beamers with balancing...kinda weird but logical!

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Mack Big Geek Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Male Posts: 280 Status: Offline My Computer	Well they gotta put something in those luxury cars to bring them at par with the price,...

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