Can I get better performance?

Euro98ITR · 04-11-2004, 08:28 PM

My current configuration is as follows:

CPU : Intel Pentium 4 2.53Ghz
Code name : Northwood
Core Speed: 27755.5Mhz using overclock utiltity from mainboard supplier
FSB: 580.1 Mhz
Motherboard: Biostar
Model: P4X266-8325
Chipset: VIA
RAM: Samsung DDR-SDRAM PC2100 - 256 MB X 2
Graphics GeForce4 MX 440 64MB Ram

Information was provided from CPU-Z.

I know this isnt a powerfull combination but I bought this system used, 3 years ago at a bargain price.

Can I overclock this sytem to get better performance? Im not into overclocking ; never done it before.

This system is used for photo editing, internet browsing and shopping! and some games occasionally like Need for Speed etc.. !!

Big B · 04-11-2004, 07:51 PM

I don't think Biostar is a brand I'd look for if you're really looking to OC. As I recall the chipset that's utilized in your motherboard (the VIA P4X266) is a single channel solution, and you would gain some performance by going to an i865PE board, which has the ability to lock the AGP and PCI busses, and the P4X266 does not. This, besides whatever voltage adjustments you may or may not have, and that your RAM is only spec'd to run at 266MHz/133MHz (sometimes the latter in your BIOS)

Quite honestly, you've got a 36.5MHz PCI bus as is (divide your FSB by 4, which currently equals 145MHz and then that result by 4, as your PCI bus is determined by dividers with your chipset, and would b 4 in this case, and equals 36.5). The thing you're looking at as a problem isn't the CPU as much as the RAM (which, if it's good could hit 166MHz, or PC2700 speeds), and the PCI divider. You start getting up around 40MHz on the PCI bus and you'll start seeing your PCI devices (on-board and PCI cards) start to not show up. You're also asking for trouble as your IDE controller is linked to this and will start causing corruption at this point in time.

However, for what you do, I really can't say overclocking will really do much for you---at least to the extent you'll notice. If you were more into FPS gaming, I'd look at a video card upgrade, but unless you're noticing some serious lag in NFS and/or playing at a high resolution (1280x1024 and up), I'm not sure a video card upgrade/overclocking would do much for you.

Waffle · 07-11-2004, 06:22 PM

Well if you don't care too much about screwing up your system, you could just over clock it until it fails to boot, and then knock it back a couple of Mhz!

Maybe up the RAM to a gig, and get a 9600XT for a decent budget card.
The processor is fine for the time being, I would say.

04-11-2004, 08:28 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
Euro98ITR Big Geek Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 29 Posts: 127 Status: Offline	Can I get better performance? My current configuration is as follows: CPU : Intel Pentium 4 2.53Ghz Code name : Northwood Core Speed: 27755.5Mhz using overclock utiltity from mainboard supplier FSB: 580.1 Mhz Motherboard: Biostar Model: P4X266-8325 Chipset: VIA RAM: Samsung DDR-SDRAM PC2100 - 256 MB X 2 Graphics GeForce4 MX 440 64MB Ram Information was provided from CPU-Z. I know this isnt a powerfull combination but I bought this system used, 3 years ago at a bargain price. Can I overclock this sytem to get better performance? Im not into overclocking ; never done it before. This system is used for photo editing, internet browsing and shopping! and some games occasionally like Need for Speed etc.. !!

04-11-2004, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,636 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	I don't think Biostar is a brand I'd look for if you're really looking to OC. As I recall the chipset that's utilized in your motherboard (the VIA P4X266) is a single channel solution, and you would gain some performance by going to an i865PE board, which has the ability to lock the AGP and PCI busses, and the P4X266 does not. This, besides whatever voltage adjustments you may or may not have, and that your RAM is only spec'd to run at 266MHz/133MHz (sometimes the latter in your BIOS) Quite honestly, you've got a 36.5MHz PCI bus as is (divide your FSB by 4, which currently equals 145MHz and then that result by 4, as your PCI bus is determined by dividers with your chipset, and would b 4 in this case, and equals 36.5). The thing you're looking at as a problem isn't the CPU as much as the RAM (which, if it's good could hit 166MHz, or PC2700 speeds), and the PCI divider. You start getting up around 40MHz on the PCI bus and you'll start seeing your PCI devices (on-board and PCI cards) start to not show up. You're also asking for trouble as your IDE controller is linked to this and will start causing corruption at this point in time. However, for what you do, I really can't say overclocking will really do much for you---at least to the extent you'll notice. If you were more into FPS gaming, I'd look at a video card upgrade, but unless you're noticing some serious lag in NFS and/or playing at a high resolution (1280x1024 and up), I'm not sure a video card upgrade/overclocking would do much for you. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

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07-11-2004, 06:22 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
Waffle Alpha Geek Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 20 Male Posts: 2,270 Times Helpful: 51 My Mood: Angelic Status: Offline My Computer	Well if you don't care too much about screwing up your system, you could just over clock it until it fails to boot, and then knock it back a couple of Mhz! Maybe up the RAM to a gig, and get a 9600XT for a decent budget card. The processor is fine for the time being, I would say.

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