CD Drive Help

kyle1212 · 10-05-2008, 01:12 AM

Hey guys, this is my first post here and im here to ask a question.

So i have a new rig and i brought my old DVD-DRIVE over to my new rig, when i try to boot from CD it says "BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" I set the first thing to boot in my BIOS as my CD Drive. Ive switched the IDE bands, and i know the Dvd drive works cause i used it in my old one and tested in a friends computer. Any ideas? This is also my first build.

THANKS.

EDIT: Also i dont have very powerful PSU (Getting a new one tomorw) its a 230watt, plus i have a 8400 gs, 2 gb of ram and a 2.8ghz single intel proc.

donkey42 · 10-05-2008, 09:51 AM

is the CD / DVD detected by the BIOS ?

is the CD set as master, slave or C/SEL ?

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Originally Posted by kyle

Also i dont have very powerful PSU (Getting a new one tomorw) its a 230watt, plus i have a 8400 gs, 2 gb of ram and a 2.8ghz single intel proc.

that is a concern but it is not the thing that concerns me most, cos i have an intel 3Ghz single core & 1Gb DDR2 and 2 CD / DVDs and my setup uses over 200W & i have an Antec TP2 550

Edit: try this PSU calculator, it not very accurate but it gives you an idea of what power you need

kyle1212 · 10-05-2008, 07:20 PM

How can i check if its in the bios? (im a noob with computer, first build)
Also how do i setup the master/slave thing.

Thanks for the response

donkey42 · 10-05-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle

How can i check if its in the bios?

detected HDD & CD should be detected before system POST, Power On Self Test (beep), and detected devices are usually displayed on screen as they are detected

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Originally Posted by kyle

Also how do i setup the master/slave thing.

assuming your CD is IDE, an IDE channel (a motherboard usually has 2 IDE channels & each channel can have only 2 devices connected too it

1 is the master
1 is the slave

master / slave is only to identify the device

to set the device as master or slave you move the jumper at the back of the device & set it to master, slave or C/SEL (cable select)

all cable select is: it's a way to identify devices, the master is connected furthest from the motherboard & the slave device is connected to the centre IDE connector

all this info is useless if you are using a SATA CD, but i've assumed it's IDE, am i correct ?

scorps65 · 10-05-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle1212

How can i check if its in the bios? (im a noob with computer, first build)

Well, since it will be almost impossible (for beginners) for you to detect whether your drive is detected in the BIOS during startup (BIOS screen loads pretty fast)... press the DELETE key to load the CMOS settings (this screen allows you to view your peripherals and configure additional settings).
Once inside, somewhere inside you will see selections like "Primary IDE Master", "Primary IDE Slave"... like this: CLICK HERE
Now... you should be able to see your DVD/CD Player in there somewhere. Lets move on to set your drive to Master:

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Originally Posted by kyle1212

Also how do i setup the master/slave thing.

Since your only going to have 1 DVD/CD drive, youll need to set the drive to MASTER. Behind your DVD drive there is a little white "jumper"... take it out and move it to the MASTER slot (do this if your drive is not on master)
Under your drive or on the top you will see the names "slave, master, csel" and it will map out for you where each goes in which slot

scorps65 · 10-05-2008, 08:11 PM

oops... sorry donkey... i guess we both go him at the same time...

donkey42 · 10-05-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scorps

oops... sorry donkey... i guess we both go him at the same time

np so long as the prob get sorted

you made a good point

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorps

Well, since it will be almost impossible (for beginners) for you to detect whether your drive is detected in the BIOS during startup (BIOS screen loads pretty fast)

true, so either do it scorps's way or press <Pause / Break> to freeze the display & <space> to continue booting

kyle1212 · 11-05-2008, 06:42 AM

Thanks for the responses guys,

I went into the bios and got to where you guys told me to, and it wasnt there. so i pressed "IDE HDD Auto-Detection" nothing i know hdd is for the hard disk. Also i dont think my jumper is on my cd drive. i dont see anything on the back ><. Thats not good is it?

Thanks again
Kyle.

kyle1212 · 11-05-2008, 06:45 AM

is that what you ment? that blue thing, cause i dont have that. it might of fallen off or something.

donkey42 · 11-05-2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle

is that what you ment?

yeah, the jumper must be set to slave if the HDD is set to master to work on a single IDE channel / cable, otherwise only the HDD will work

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle

cause i dont have that. it might of fallen off or something.

maybe, get a spare jumper from somewhere like an old motherboard or something

kyle1212 · 11-05-2008, 10:47 PM

So motherboard jumpers are the same as the dvd ones? cause i do have a old mother board. ill go see if that works and then ill be back.

also i dont have an IDE hard drive, its SATA, so the dvd-drive is master?

scorps65 · 11-05-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle1212

also i dont have an IDE hard drive, its SATA, so the dvd-drive is master?

Yes, since your HDD is SATA you should set your DVD drive to Master.

kyle1212 · 11-05-2008, 11:07 PM

okay i got an old jumper from my other mobo, and still nothing. i put it to master and it still didnt detect anything.

scorps65 · 12-05-2008, 02:31 AM

This is very odd.
Lets try this:
Disconnect your SATA HDD and any other IDE OR SATA connections you may have. Then, were gonig to clear your CMOS... but before we do this... post a large picture (or provide a link) of your motherboard. I would like to see the connections it has and also would like to see if it has a "clear cmos" button.
So... post a picture if you can and we'll do as i said above.

donkey42 · 12-05-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorps

Yes, since your HDD is SATA you should set your DVD drive to Master.

traditionally, you are correct, however, there is no reason why a CD / DVD cannot be master or slave

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorps

This is very odd.
Lets try this:
Disconnect your SATA HDD and any other IDE OR SATA connections you may have. Then, were gonig to clear your CMOS... but before we do this... post a large picture (or provide a link) of your motherboard. I would like to see the connections it has and also would like to see if it has a "clear cmos" button.
So... post a picture if you can and we'll do as i said above.

before that try cable select as master / slave because the traditional master / slave can also not work, but is fixable by using cable select

set the CD as C/SEL and connect it to the end IDE connector for it to be the Cable SELect master or connect it to the middle IDE connector to be slave, failing that you need to try a known working DVD, also try it as master & slave on the secondary IDE channel if you have one

10-05-2008, 01:12 AM	#1 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	CD Drive Help Hey guys, this is my first post here and im here to ask a question. So i have a new rig and i brought my old DVD-DRIVE over to my new rig, when i try to boot from CD it says "BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" I set the first thing to boot in my BIOS as my CD Drive. Ive switched the IDE bands, and i know the Dvd drive works cause i used it in my old one and tested in a friends computer. Any ideas? This is also my first build. THANKS. EDIT: Also i dont have very powerful PSU (Getting a new one tomorw) its a 230watt, plus i have a 8400 gs, 2 gb of ram and a 2.8ghz single intel proc. Last edited by kyle1212; 10-05-2008 at 01:15 AM.

10-05-2008, 08:11 PM	#6 (permalink) Top
scorps65 Big Geek Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 19 Male Posts: 309 Times Helpful: 19 My Mood: Psychadelic Status: Offline My Computer	oops... sorry donkey... i guess we both go him at the same time... __________________

11-05-2008, 10:47 PM	#11 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	So motherboard jumpers are the same as the dvd ones? cause i do have a old mother board. ill go see if that works and then ill be back. also i dont have an IDE hard drive, its SATA, so the dvd-drive is master? Last edited by kyle1212; 11-05-2008 at 10:51 PM.

12-05-2008, 02:31 AM	#14 (permalink) Top
scorps65 Big Geek Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 19 Male Posts: 309 Times Helpful: 19 My Mood: Psychadelic Status: Offline My Computer	This is very odd. Lets try this: Disconnect your SATA HDD and any other IDE OR SATA connections you may have. Then, were gonig to clear your CMOS... but before we do this... post a large picture (or provide a link) of your motherboard. I would like to see the connections it has and also would like to see if it has a "clear cmos" button. So... post a picture if you can and we'll do as i said above. __________________

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10-05-2008, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	How can i check if its in the bios? (im a noob with computer, first build) Also how do i setup the master/slave thing. Thanks for the response

11-05-2008, 06:42 AM	#8 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	Thanks for the responses guys, I went into the bios and got to where you guys told me to, and it wasnt there. so i pressed "IDE HDD Auto-Detection" nothing i know hdd is for the hard disk. Also i dont think my jumper is on my cd drive. i dont see anything on the back ><. Thats not good is it? Thanks again Kyle.

11-05-2008, 06:45 AM	#9 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	is that what you ment? that blue thing, cause i dont have that. it might of fallen off or something.

11-05-2008, 11:07 PM	#13 (permalink) Top
kyle1212 Geek Trainee Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 My Mood: Pumped Status: Offline	okay i got an old jumper from my other mobo, and still nothing. i put it to master and it still didnt detect anything.

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