Decent Modular PSU

urb1972 · 28-09-2005, 11:08 PM

(referring to http://www.hardwareforums.com/cooling-advice-8017/)

With the Coolermaster 732 case in mind, what power supply do you think I should get to avoid having to revert my fan like sabashuali had to?

I read on what you lot seemed to think were good brands. As I plan to get a 3.0 or 3.2 (Prescott?) P4, and was gonna stop at 2gb memory and a £100 graphics card, I thought 500 would be more than enough, but want one that is both reliable under heavy use.

I also want it to be modular, as I only intend to have 1 hard drive, 1 dvd drive and a floppy drive. I'm not sure if the Coolermaster 732 draws power for its fans directly from the mobo or from a molex adaptor to connect directly to the PSU.

On my current system, a case fan I'd installed with a blue LED I had connected to the rear fan pins on the mobo and it started off static then flashed strobe constantly. I'd never installed a case fan before and I wasn't sure if the LED ones were supposed to flash like this. However, a friend came round and suggested I use the molex adaptor to power it from the PSU and now it it remains on static. More case clutter, though. Probably the newbiest thing ever to admit I didn't know, but there you go.

I've got this PSU in mind:
Tagan TG530-U15 530W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...an_EasyCon.jpg

Is that okay, or overkill?

Matt555 · 28-09-2005, 10:12 PM

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Hiper.html
Hiper do some modular PSU's and willhub should be able to help you with that as he's got one
As for Tagan all i can say is QUALITY! i have a lower model 480W PSU which would be enough for you but it isnt modular and has a mass of cables so like mme you'd have a lot of case tidying to do!
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...=PST-TG480-U01 <<my PSU

ProcalX · 28-09-2005, 10:38 PM

If you buy a good quality PSU (ie with good Amps on the V Rails) then a 250W would could run a P4 / 2GB / X800 256mb / 2 Sata drives / DVD-RW / mobo e.t.c

Tagan makes good quality PSU's, the Amps per Voltage Rail are more than generous, a 530W is not overkill, but if u buy it do not replace it for something else when u upgrade - u dont need to.

on a 530W Tagan PSU you could easily run:
Dual Core 4800+
2GB Memory (4x512mb)
2 500GB SATA-II HDD
2 x Optical Drives
2 x 6800GT in SLI

just have ot make sure you share your PSU V lines equally around your PC.

Big B · 29-09-2005, 02:52 AM

OCZ's ModStream 450 is fairly popular as is Antec's NeoPower 480. The Sunbeam NUUO550 is the only nVidia SLI-certified modular power supply on the market right now. Newegg lists that sucker for $79.00, which given modular factor and Sunbeam being relatively unknown in the power supply business, it's price is damn near amazing as I'm pretty sure it's cheaper than the OCZ and Antec unit's I mentioned.

I haven't used Hiper, but I've been hearing some good things about them. The UK lads that hit this place up tend to favor them or Tagan units.

Matt555 · 29-09-2005, 02:45 PM

Yeah
Matt555 = UK Lad
Matt555 Likes: Tagan TG480-U01
willhub = UK Lad
willhub Likes: Hiper Type-R 580W Modular PSU
I hear good things about Hiper PSU's personally I'd prefer a known trusted company though.

urb1972 · 29-09-2005, 06:25 PM

So where is this land of rip-off computer shops?

I thought PC World had branches everywhere?

Matt555 · 29-09-2005, 06:27 PM

Off Topic (directing to right thread)
lmao its the Town of rip off computer shops, see this thread

Willz · 29-09-2005, 06:47 PM

:p, yea i have a hiper type-r-580w at first, i was worried that with all the stuff in my case, and new graphics card, i was worried that the power supply would fail, but, its GREAT!, cool looking psu, 580/630w, UV reactive, got a decent 120mm fan in, and 80mm high quality fan sucking air out of the psu, the 80mm fan stays on for about 10 mins after the computer has turned off, this helps cool it down and suck hot air out of the case, the power supply is also running very cool at the moment.

Its a brilliant psu, i got it for £72 at pc world, although, it can be sold for as much as £50 on the internet i bellive.

also, the power supply's fans all light up too

one letdown about the Hiper type-r psu, it is not SLI ready, i dont know if you can get splitters so 2 pci-e cards can run on one line :\

urb1972 · 29-09-2005, 10:55 PM

I know this seems like a newbie question, and off topic, but as I don't know what it is, I wouldn't know what thread to put it in...

...but what is SLI? I thought it was something to do with Nvidia

Matt555 · 30-09-2005, 03:15 PM

Here's a good link to tell you what it is, better then i can explain.

urb1972 · 30-09-2005, 05:29 PM

cheers Matt, I've just read it.

Just a couple of points then, are these two cards both PCI then, or is one AGP? If they are PCI, or PCI Express (if that's a new thing: does that refer to a new card that can fit in an existing PCI or are the sockets themselves PCI Express on some mobos) are AGP cards a dying trend?

Also what mobos support it? I take it mine doesn't as it would probably have "SLI Ready" slapped all over the specs.

(http://www.intel.com/products/mother...perl/index.htm)

If it did I missed it!

Willz · 30-09-2005, 05:58 PM

PCI-E is a new type of slot of gaming, motherboards with PCI-E on dont have AGP, motherboards thast are SLI enabled, have 2 PCI-E x16 slots on, so 2 graphics cards can fit, PCI-E is far different from PCI.

PCI-E is also extreamly faster than AGP.

urb1972 · 30-09-2005, 08:34 PM

My motherboard doesn't have them

cheers willhub,

that's made my decision for me.

Sell mobo. Sell CPU. Go Athlon. Buy FX64 (or whatever is P4 3.0 equiv) and get nice mobo with crisp PCI Express slots... Damn this is gonna cost a lot.

Willz · 30-09-2005, 10:02 PM

you really dont want an AMD-64-FX they cost in the regeion of £500, you want an AMD-64-3200+
also, just get one ati radoen X800XT PE as they can run on sli motherboards i think, or get one GF 6800GT, or why not, buy a crossfir motherboard (ATI) then buy a pci-E Ati radeon X800XT PE, and put it on that motherboard, then save up, for a special Crossfire X800XT PE, then you have 2 X800XT PE'S working on the same board which = thrashes DUAL 6800GT'S (SLI) as crossfire will almost defenitly be better.

urb1972 · 30-09-2005, 10:47 PM

I take it Crossfire is ATI's answer to Nvidia's SLI then?

cheers for that, I think it's something that I'll shelve for now. I think I'll get this PC finished, then I'll start on a new one, rather than selling bits off. As it stands, P4 3.0, more memory and a GeForce 6600. I'm wary about leaving Nvidia for ATI. I just need more convincing...

28-09-2005, 11:08 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	Decent Modular PSU (referring to http://www.hardwareforums.com/cooling-advice-8017/) With the Coolermaster 732 case in mind, what power supply do you think I should get to avoid having to revert my fan like sabashuali had to? I read on what you lot seemed to think were good brands. As I plan to get a 3.0 or 3.2 (Prescott?) P4, and was gonna stop at 2gb memory and a £100 graphics card, I thought 500 would be more than enough, but want one that is both reliable under heavy use. I also want it to be modular, as I only intend to have 1 hard drive, 1 dvd drive and a floppy drive. I'm not sure if the Coolermaster 732 draws power for its fans directly from the mobo or from a molex adaptor to connect directly to the PSU. On my current system, a case fan I'd installed with a blue LED I had connected to the rear fan pins on the mobo and it started off static then flashed strobe constantly. I'd never installed a case fan before and I wasn't sure if the LED ones were supposed to flash like this. However, a friend came round and suggested I use the molex adaptor to power it from the PSU and now it it remains on static. More case clutter, though. Probably the newbiest thing ever to admit I didn't know, but there you go. I've got this PSU in mind: Tagan TG530-U15 530W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...an_EasyCon.jpg Is that okay, or overkill? __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

28-09-2005, 10:12 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
Matt555 iMod Join Date: May 2005 Age: 21 Male Posts: 3,844 Times Helpful: 238 My Mood: Happy Status: Offline My Computer	http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Hiper.html Hiper do some modular PSU's and willhub should be able to help you with that as he's got one As for Tagan all i can say is QUALITY! i have a lower model 480W PSU which would be enough for you but it isnt modular and has a mass of cables so like mme you'd have a lot of case tidying to do! http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...=PST-TG480-U01 <<my PSU __________________

28-09-2005, 10:38 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
ProcalX Student Bum Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 22 Male Posts: 1,536 Times Helpful: 30 My Mood: Cheerful Status: Offline My Computer	If you buy a good quality PSU (ie with good Amps on the V Rails) then a 250W would could run a P4 / 2GB / X800 256mb / 2 Sata drives / DVD-RW / mobo e.t.c Tagan makes good quality PSU's, the Amps per Voltage Rail are more than generous, a 530W is not overkill, but if u buy it do not replace it for something else when u upgrade - u dont need to. on a 530W Tagan PSU you could easily run: Dual Core 4800+ 2GB Memory (4x512mb) 2 500GB SATA-II HDD 2 x Optical Drives 2 x 6800GT in SLI just have ot make sure you share your PSU V lines equally around your PC. __________________ Laptop // Toshiba Satellite A210-11P // AMD Turion 64 X2 1.8Ghz Dual Core // 4GB DDR2 // 200GB Sata HD // Dual Layer DVD-RW // ATI Radeon HD2400XT 256MB // 15.4" HD Crystal Display // Vista Premium Desktop // HP DC7700* // Pentium Dual Core 3.4Ghz // 2GB DDR2 // 2x 160GB Sata2 // 16x DVD-RW // Crucial Ballistix // ATI Radeon X1950GT 512MB // 20" Dell Screen // XP Pro SP2*

29-09-2005, 02:52 AM	#4 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,636 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	OCZ's ModStream 450 is fairly popular as is Antec's NeoPower 480. The Sunbeam NUUO550 is the only nVidia SLI-certified modular power supply on the market right now. Newegg lists that sucker for $79.00, which given modular factor and Sunbeam being relatively unknown in the power supply business, it's price is damn near amazing as I'm pretty sure it's cheaper than the OCZ and Antec unit's I mentioned. I haven't used Hiper, but I've been hearing some good things about them. The UK lads that hit this place up tend to favor them or Tagan units. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

29-09-2005, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
Matt555 iMod Join Date: May 2005 Age: 21 Male Posts: 3,844 Times Helpful: 238 My Mood: Happy Status: Offline My Computer	Yeah Matt555 = UK Lad Matt555 Likes: Tagan TG480-U01 willhub = UK Lad willhub Likes: Hiper Type-R 580W Modular PSU I hear good things about Hiper PSU's personally I'd prefer a known trusted company though. __________________

29-09-2005, 06:25 PM	#6 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	So where is this land of rip-off computer shops? I thought PC World had branches everywhere? __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

29-09-2005, 06:27 PM	#7 (permalink) Top
Matt555 iMod Join Date: May 2005 Age: 21 Male Posts: 3,844 Times Helpful: 238 My Mood: Happy Status: Offline My Computer	Off Topic (directing to right thread) lmao its the Town of rip off computer shops, see this thread __________________

29-09-2005, 06:47 PM	#8 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	:p, yea i have a hiper type-r-580w at first, i was worried that with all the stuff in my case, and new graphics card, i was worried that the power supply would fail, but, its GREAT!, cool looking psu, 580/630w, UV reactive, got a decent 120mm fan in, and 80mm high quality fan sucking air out of the psu, the 80mm fan stays on for about 10 mins after the computer has turned off, this helps cool it down and suck hot air out of the case, the power supply is also running very cool at the moment. Its a brilliant psu, i got it for £72 at pc world, although, it can be sold for as much as £50 on the internet i bellive. also, the power supply's fans all light up too one letdown about the Hiper type-r psu, it is not SLI ready, i dont know if you can get splitters so 2 pci-e cards can run on one line :\ __________________ Last edited by Willz; 29-09-2005 at 06:49 PM.

29-09-2005, 10:55 PM	#9 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	I know this seems like a newbie question, and off topic, but as I don't know what it is, I wouldn't know what thread to put it in... ...but what is SLI? I thought it was something to do with Nvidia __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

30-09-2005, 03:15 PM	#10 (permalink) Top
Matt555 iMod Join Date: May 2005 Age: 21 Male Posts: 3,844 Times Helpful: 238 My Mood: Happy Status: Offline My Computer	Here's a good link to tell you what it is, better then i can explain. __________________

30-09-2005, 05:29 PM	#11 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	cheers Matt, I've just read it. Just a couple of points then, are these two cards both PCI then, or is one AGP? If they are PCI, or PCI Express (if that's a new thing: does that refer to a new card that can fit in an existing PCI or are the sockets themselves PCI Express on some mobos) are AGP cards a dying trend? Also what mobos support it? I take it mine doesn't as it would probably have "SLI Ready" slapped all over the specs. (http://www.intel.com/products/mother...perl/index.htm) If it did I missed it! __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

30-09-2005, 05:58 PM	#12 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	PCI-E is a new type of slot of gaming, motherboards with PCI-E on dont have AGP, motherboards thast are SLI enabled, have 2 PCI-E x16 slots on, so 2 graphics cards can fit, PCI-E is far different from PCI. PCI-E is also extreamly faster than AGP. __________________

30-09-2005, 08:34 PM	#13 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	My motherboard doesn't have them cheers willhub, that's made my decision for me. Sell mobo. Sell CPU. Go Athlon. Buy FX64 (or whatever is P4 3.0 equiv) and get nice mobo with crisp PCI Express slots... Damn this is gonna cost a lot. __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

30-09-2005, 10:02 PM	#14 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	you really dont want an AMD-64-FX they cost in the regeion of £500, you want an AMD-64-3200+ also, just get one ati radoen X800XT PE as they can run on sli motherboards i think, or get one GF 6800GT, or why not, buy a crossfir motherboard (ATI) then buy a pci-E Ati radeon X800XT PE, and put it on that motherboard, then save up, for a special Crossfire X800XT PE, then you have 2 X800XT PE'S working on the same board which = thrashes DUAL 6800GT'S (SLI) as crossfire will almost defenitly be better. __________________

30-09-2005, 10:47 PM	#15 (permalink) Top
urb1972 Geek Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 36 Male Posts: 83 Status: Offline My Computer	I take it Crossfire is ATI's answer to Nvidia's SLI then? cheers for that, I think it's something that I'll shelve for now. I think I'll get this PC finished, then I'll start on a new one, rather than selling bits off. As it stands, P4 3.0, more memory and a GeForce 6600. I'm wary about leaving Nvidia for ATI. I just need more convincing... __________________ http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/0b0a748e.jpg

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