Define Industrial

Exfoliate · 27-06-2005, 06:32 PM

I like this genre a lot but I really can't figure out what makes it different from other types of electronic music. It's really weird as there are no real obvious determinants, all I can see is there's usually some vocal parts, oh boy. The only thing I noticed that was rather interesting was that the people that make up industrial bands look like automachanics, which is sort of an 'industrial' job but I'm sure thats just coincidence. Anyone know?
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Waffle · 27-06-2005, 05:36 PM

Well Rammestein is classed as German Industrial Metal, whether or not thats of any forseeable use to you, I'm not sure.

zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG · 27-06-2005, 07:27 PM

its weird to define, no one at my school, knows, i was askin around once

Exfoliate · 27-06-2005, 10:19 PM

That sort of helps a little Waffles, if nothing else it's interesting. I have enough industrial to know what it should sound like but I just can understand why it's in a genre of it's own. I've heard of a classification called gabbor I belive it is, it sounds like what you described, like metal techno almost, though that's not quite Rammestein is it...

zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG · 27-06-2005, 10:25 PM

metal techno + hammers imo

ninja fetus · 27-06-2005, 10:41 PM

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"A style of music started in the mid-1970's by the seminal "band" Throbbing Gristle. Known for the painful noise and disturbed subject matter that seemed to spring eternal from their seriously crazed leader, Genesis P-Orridge (he was once threatened by the axe-murder Ian Brady... Prompting him to write a song about Ian), TG quickly claimed a name for itself. They were often described as "the wreckers of civilization." Industrial music was further explored by synth-whatever acts Suicide and Cabaret Voltaire, from New York and Sheffield respectively. Both shared a sort of skewed love for pop music, and both had a penchant for writing seriously weird songs, in the tradition of TG. Cab Voltaire especially was an enormous influence on the scene to follow. The Cabs were soon followed by the fledgling Einsturzende Neubauten, possibly the most notorious of the well-known industrial groups. With more members, no drum set, and a hatred for the guitar, Blixa Bargeld and his band of jaded Germans unleashed a wave of broken machinery and really cool-sounding German lyrics, and throwing in danceable beats, thus giving birth to (you can't blame 'em) the Holocaust that is modern-day industrial. With very little respect for the experimentation of their forefathers but a strong desire to somehow work machinery into their music, a whole host of over (I will NOT say über)-angsty Goths turned to the new genre of Industrial for sanctuary. Bands like Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, and many other groups who wore their hair like Goths but were really, REALLY angry, started coming out of the woodwork. J.G. Thirlwell was a notable exception, bringing some seriously needed humour to the genre with his whole host of aliases (most of them containing "foetus"). Things only went downhill from there, and before you know it, BAM! the Nine Inch Nails.

Just because it has the sound of a jackhammer in it doesn't make it industrial music."

Source: Owen, Jul 23, 2003

Exfoliate · 27-06-2005, 11:09 PM

Wow, nice ninja, imaginary helpful point for you bud. That sort of fits what I have I guess, some of it's rather angry but I'd say depressing is more accurate, it's not like screaming or anything like some metal bands. I'll have to listen for the machinary, that's what I though at first, like clanking and stuff but I never really caught any of it. Oh well good bit of history anyway. Assemblage 23 is my fav industrial group (actually I think he's just one guy but oh well), great stuff in my opinion, some deep lyrics.

zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG · 28-06-2005, 12:12 AM

you didnt give him a helpful point or me on the dell thing with my suggestion for coolbits, so this is a war...

ITS ON hahahahaha

im supposing its me n ninja vs you? haha

Exfoliate · 28-06-2005, 02:49 AM

Oh yeah, get right to it

27-06-2005, 06:32 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	Define Industrial I like this genre a lot but I really can't figure out what makes it different from other types of electronic music. It's really weird as there are no real obvious determinants, all I can see is there's usually some vocal parts, oh boy. The only thing I noticed that was rather interesting was that the people that make up industrial bands look like automachanics, which is sort of an 'industrial' job but I'm sure thats just coincidence. Anyone know? check out this, it's amazing all the genre's they've come up with for Dance music. __________________

27-06-2005, 07:27 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,487 Times Helpful: 101 My Mood: Amused Status: Offline My Computer	its weird to define, no one at my school, knows, i was askin around once __________________

27-06-2005, 10:19 PM	#4 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	That sort of helps a little Waffles, if nothing else it's interesting. I have enough industrial to know what it should sound like but I just can understand why it's in a genre of it's own. I've heard of a classification called gabbor I belive it is, it sounds like what you described, like metal techno almost, though that's not quite Rammestein is it... __________________

27-06-2005, 10:25 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,487 Times Helpful: 101 My Mood: Amused Status: Offline My Computer	metal techno + hammers imo __________________

27-06-2005, 11:09 PM	#7 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	Wow, nice ninja, imaginary helpful point for you bud. That sort of fits what I have I guess, some of it's rather angry but I'd say depressing is more accurate, it's not like screaming or anything like some metal bands. I'll have to listen for the machinary, that's what I though at first, like clanking and stuff but I never really caught any of it. Oh well good bit of history anyway. Assemblage 23 is my fav industrial group (actually I think he's just one guy but oh well), great stuff in my opinion, some deep lyrics. __________________

27-06-2005, 05:36 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
Waffle Alpha Geek Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 20 Male Posts: 2,270 Times Helpful: 51 My Mood: Angelic Status: Offline My Computer	Well Rammestein is classed as German Industrial Metal, whether or not thats of any forseeable use to you, I'm not sure.

28-06-2005, 12:12 AM	#8 (permalink) Top
zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,487 Times Helpful: 101 My Mood: Amused Status: Offline My Computer	you didnt give him a helpful point or me on the dell thing with my suggestion for coolbits, so this is a war... ITS ON hahahahaha im supposing its me n ninja vs you? haha __________________

28-06-2005, 02:49 AM	#9 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	Oh yeah, get right to it __________________

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