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Old 05-02-2008, 06:20 AM   #61 (permalink) Top
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just wondering, im not sure if this was already answered, how much do you want this computer to cost? whats your max price, not including peripherals
I would like it to cost about $1000... but I want it on 2 or 4 years without upgrades...

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Old 05-02-2008, 07:39 AM   #62 (permalink) Top
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Configuration 23:

Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4400 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $135
Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

Total: $1825

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Old 05-02-2008, 08:06 AM   #63 (permalink) Top
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Configuration 24:

Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0GHz, 4MB L2 cache, 1333MHz FSB) - $285
Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

Total: $1975

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Old 05-02-2008, 03:15 PM   #64 (permalink) Top
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Ah, but he posted it was the most mindfull of price. That means the best bang for your buck. The only time most users would see a difference with that cache would be mostly 3-d applications. And the amount of difference that the cache makes then is marginal. Therefore, you can spend $80 on a proc for a build that is "mindfull in price" or spend hundreds and get absolutely comparable results. Apollo already created his post for the performance rig(s) so I was showing him something of value since he asked how to shave it down.
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:43 PM   #65 (permalink) Top
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This is only part of the story.While the statement about the video card is true, the one about the CPU is only half right. While overall clock speed plays a big part in a system's speed it is not the only thing. FSB speed and cache size will also pay big dividends. Also, you never know how much you will be able to overclock your processor. While 400 Mhz on a Core 2 Duo is a pretty safe bet, it is not guaranteed. And, now matter how much you overclock your processor it will never have 4MB of L2 cache. Not to mention that an E6600 will overclock, too, giving you an even better machine. I personally would recommend an E6750. It overclocks well, has all the cache perks, and comes stock with a 1333 Mhz FSB.
yeah i have an E6700 and i overclocked it using nvidia's ntune program and i got it to add around 400mhz. my friend has an E6600 and it is basically just as as an E6700 if they are both at stock speeds. Too bad the E6750 wasn't available until about a week after i purchased my E6700 . but if you have the money, definetly try to get a E6600 or E6750
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:45 PM   #66 (permalink) Top
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Configuration 24:

Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0GHz, 4MB L2 cache, 1333MHz FSB) - $285
Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

Total: $1975

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ok just saw that your latest config has a E6850. i would still reccommend upgrading the power supply to about 650 watts, which you can do and still keep the $115 price tag on the psu. i think that the 500 watt you have there may be stretching itself to run all of that, and it may be hard to upgrade in the future
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:49 PM   #67 (permalink) Top
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Configuration 24:

Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0GHz, 4MB L2 cache, 1333MHz FSB) - $285
Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

Total: $1975

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Also, you don't want to crossfire on a p35 board. Get an x38.
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:53 PM   #68 (permalink) Top
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wow i must seem like im obsessing with the power supply by now. but anyways i found 4 good ones for less money that have more power very quickly online.
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wow i must seem like im obsessing with the power supply by now. but anyways i found 4 good ones for less money that have more power very quickly online.
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:57 AM   #70 (permalink) Top
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i have a thermaltake currently but i did have an antec and it was very good while i was using that old computer. i would also reccommend the antec
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:26 PM   #71 (permalink) Top
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eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5 says, that I need only 490W at full load for configurations 23 and 24... is it correct?
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:33 PM   #72 (permalink) Top
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that sounds like it would be about right. but just in case its wrong, i would still go with a 600-650 watt psu. that way there should be no chance of needing to upgrade the power supply if it isnt enough. also if you want to upgrade its always good to have a bit extra
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:41 PM   #73 (permalink) Top
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Configuration 25:

Motherboard: Asus, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4600 (2.4GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $155
Memory: Geil, 2x2GB (GX24GB6400DC, PC2-6400, DDR2-800MHz) - $115
Graphics Card: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
Hard Drive 1: Samsung, 400GB (HD403LJ, 16MB cache, 7200RPM) - $110
Hard Drive 2: Samsung, 200GB (SP2004C, 8MB cache, 7200RPM) - $60
Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
Power Supply: be quiet!, 350W (BQT E5-350W) - $85

Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $280
Speakers: Edifier, R1900TII (2.0) - $85
Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $15
Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

Total: $1010/$1400

This configuration is pretty good, I think. Tell me your thoughts. Thanks.

P.S. The first price is without peripherals, second with.

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Old 08-02-2008, 04:08 PM   #74 (permalink) Top
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I'm guessing that since that's a 19'' display that you will be running at 1440x900 native or so. I would recommend upgrading that 3850 and spending another $20-30 and get a 3570. It'll have GDDR4 instead of GDDR3, and more memory for the high(ish) resolution.

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail it's $235, I would go for a higher priced one with a bit better cooler, but you get the idea.

edit: The performance difference is actually quite huge, not sure why anyone would buy the 3850 now that the 3870 is only ~$30 more.. Here's a chart to compare (3850 and 3870 cards are blue, give it time to load Tom's Hardware has been slow last few days...) VGA Charts 2007 | Tom's Hardware

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Old 08-02-2008, 04:29 PM   #75 (permalink) Top
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Acually, 19-inch displays have 1280x1024 of resolution. And, high resolution can only take few frames off... so that's not a big deal for a GPU. Thank in advice of Radeon HD 3870, but I think I'll keep Radeon HD 3850... no need in 512MB of video-RAM or GDDR4 for that configuration.

But what will be your other thoughts? Is it stable enough? Thanks mate.

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