My new PC 2008 :: What to acquire

Apollo1020 · 18-02-2008, 01:44 PM

I have not bought anything yet, but I will buy my new PC 2008 soon.

What I need help with, is that - what to acquire.

Here are essential things:

1. Operating System. Q: Windows Vista Ultimate - 32-bit or 64-bit?
2. Internet security suite. Q: Norton Internet Security 2008?

I know, that everything is compatible with 32-bit OS, but it can handle only 3,25GB of RAM... though, not all is compatible with 64-bit OS, but it can handle all 4GB of RAM. Question: what is better to choose?

Now a days we need not only anti-virus protection, but also protection against malware and hackers (that includes good firewall). Question: is Norton Internet Security 2008 a right choice?

Please, give me your advices and answers on all that (PROS and CONS). Thank you.

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Also, I need help with setting up a correct/working internet connection and home network.

Right now, I am working on my old PC from my room, which is connection thrue network card by TV cable (DOCSIS 2.0 technology) to server PC in other room.

Take a look at P5K-E/WiFi-AP (Asus) motherboard... what types of connection do I have to choose from? Will I have to change something in my home network to connect to the internet?

This is VERY important. Thank you.

donkey42 · 18-02-2008, 04:23 PM

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1. Operating System. Q: 32-bit or 64-bit?

personally, i only use 32bit OSs (Linux) so, i feel unable to answer this

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2. Internet security suite. Q: Norton Internet Security 2008?

NIS is crap, & very difficult to dump the only way to totally get rid of it from your system is to reinstall your OS

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Question: is Norton Internet Security 2008 a right choice?

no, because symantec (the owners of NIS) always think they know best e.g. Partition Magic (PM), was quite good when powerquest owned them, but, when symantec took over powerquest in about 2003, PM was "rewritten" by symantec, if something works, leave it alone

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Also, I need help with setting up a correct/working internet connection and home network.

the easiest way to connect any network or single PC to the net is by using an Ethernet router, but, be very careful choosing the correct 1 for you, because, this mobo has a Gigabit NIC, so, make sure ALL other network devices are also Gigabit compatible, basically Gigabit means is:

a single system connects to the net at about 100Mb per second, but, with Gigabit you can connect multiple systems to the same net connection without slowing down the connection

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what types of connection do I have to choose from?

you can't really choose, you are on cable

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Will I have to change something in my home network to connect to the internet?

no, the only real difference is you may need a cable modem connected directly to the cable connection and then to the router unless you buy a router with an integrated cable modem

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can i please breath now, cos thats a lot of typing

RHochstenbach · 18-02-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo1020

1. Operating System. Q: Windows Vista Ultimate - 32-bit or 64-bit?

If you have 4 GB or more RAM installed, take the 64-bit version. Otherwise the 32-bit version

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2. Internet security suite. Q: Norton Internet Security 2008?

PC-Cillin and Kaspersky are good for all-protection solutions. If you only need anti-virus software, you could use Avast or NOD32. Norton is bad.

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(the owners of NIS) always think they know best

Not always. I used my NIS disk to clean my shredder

donkey42 · 18-02-2008, 04:58 PM

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Not always. I used my NIS disk to clean my shredder

thats all it's good for

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you as mad as me

RHochstenbach · 18-02-2008, 05:02 PM

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Shredders are nice. They can even be used to install Vista in two minutes

Apollo1020 · 18-02-2008, 05:05 PM

Ok, thanks donkey42, thanks RHochstenbach... thanks guys.

So, about 1st question... of course, 64-bit OS is far more ahead, than 32-bit, but if a program/game is working on 32-bit only, will it work on 64-bit (properly) or it will need a special compability for that?

About 2nd question... yes, the only thing, that bothers be about Norton Internet Security 2008, is that it can't be properly removed from the system. Otherwise - it's a great product, I've tested it myself.

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And about home network / internet connection... thanks, donkey42, you've helped me in understanding the infrastructure of it.

To place the info correctly:

My PC in my room is connected to a server PC in other room thrue a network card (same with a server PC) by a TV cable. The data rate between them is 100Mbits/sec, but the internet is working on 12Mbits/sec, because a server PC is connected to a cable modem by USB wire. I hope I've got it right and haven't confused nobody... so, my question, is: what shall I change/upgrade (to not install a network card in my new PC) to make a proper 100Mbits/sec connection from my new PC at my room? Thanks.

RHochstenbach · 18-02-2008, 05:12 PM

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thanks guys.

sure, no problem

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So, about 1st question... of course, 64-bit OS is far more ahead, than 32-bit, but if a program/game is working on 32-bit only, will it work on 64-bit (properly) or it will need a special compability for that?

The only things that don't work on a 64-bits OS are 32-bit device drivers. Most apps all work on a 64-bit OS. There are 2 games that don't work (well) on a 64-bit OS: Half-Life 2 Episode 1 (HL2 and episode 2 work fine) and Flight Simulator X.

donkey42 · 18-02-2008, 05:20 PM

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thanks guys

your very welcome, please let me know any time if you want help

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Shredders are nice

that the best use of a vista CD i've ever seen

Edit: BTW: just donkey will do

Apollo1020 · 18-02-2008, 05:25 PM

LOL... you guys are funny... the video too...

Pimp · 18-02-2008, 05:34 PM

I think it would be a good idea if you chose 64bit os but certainly not vista ultimate. It's not worth it, you should get vista home premium instead save you a lot of money but if you really want to spend extra money just to have a logo that says ultimate then that's your choice. I understand it has a few more programs and stuff you can play with but not worth it in my opinion.

As for internet security Norton ain't good at all just like what the other guys said. I would recommend you get NOD 32 or Kaspersky they are really good i have used them before.

Just curious to know the 4GB ram your going to use is it DDR2 or 3???

sorry if there are loads of spelling mistakes in this or bad grammar but i kind of typed it in a hurry

Apollo1020 · 18-02-2008, 05:38 PM

To place the info correctly:

My PC in my room is connected to a server PC in other room thrue a network card (same with a server PC) by a TV cable. The data rate between them is 100Mbits/sec, but the internet is working on 12Mbits/sec, because a server PC is connected to a cable modem by USB wire. I hope I've got it right and haven't confused nobody... so, my question, is: what shall I change/upgrade (to not install a network card in my new PC) to make a proper 100Mbits/sec connection from my new PC at my room?

Thanks a lot.

P.S. Tell me if it's possible without using a network card (only motherboard) from my new PC.

Apollo1020 · 18-02-2008, 05:43 PM

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Just curious to know the 4GB ram your going to use is it DDR2 or 3???

It's DDR2 of course... much cheaper.

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sorry if there are loads of spelling mistakes in this or bad grammar but i kind of typed it in a hurry

No problem...

donkey42 · 18-02-2008, 05:51 PM

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LOL... you guys are funny...

thats my BIGGEST disability, my sense of humour

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And about home network / internet connection... thanks, donkey42, you've helped me in understanding the infrastructure of it. But right now - I'm using internet without router. A server PC is connected to a cable modem and my PC is connected thrue a network card (don't know, where it's plugged in a server PC). The data rate between PCs are 100Mbits/sec and server PC using only 12Mbits/sec to internet. IT specialists told me, that it's because I need another network card for a server PC (USB connection is weak). My question: is it possible to install another network card into server PC and connecting to internet thrue it and my new PC will be connected thrue a motherboard... or the motherboard will not have such a connector and I'll need a network card? If it's possible - I guess, that the connection would be 50/50. Thanks on any info.

a router usually has 2, 3 or 4 Ethernet connections obviously to connect multiple systems to the net, you can also connect things like NAS directly to an Ethernet port & printers n stuff, if you want more systems on your network you can add an ethernet switch, to turn 1 ethernet port into however many ports the switch has

BTW: use a switch not a hub

donkey42 · 18-02-2008, 06:09 PM

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sorry if there are loads of spelling mistakes in this or bad grammar but i kind of typed it in a hurry

if you use FF just turn on the spellchecker, but, i can't remember where it is, but, i would have thought it is accessible by typing "about:config" in the address bar, look here

RHochstenbach · 19-02-2008, 08:36 AM

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Why don't you just get a ....

Read this:

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4.) War3z, MP3's, illegal software, etc.: comments and threads on who to contact or where to go to obtain such material is prohibited. Why? Well, first of all, we could get into trouble, and 2nd, if the party owning the material that has been pirated decides to go after you, we may have to turn over any and all information on that person that we have.

18-02-2008, 01:44 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
Apollo1020 Big Geek Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Status: Offline	My new PC 2008 :: What to acquire I have not bought anything yet, but I will buy my new PC 2008 soon. What I need help with, is that - what to acquire. Here are essential things: 1. Operating System. Q: Windows Vista Ultimate - 32-bit or 64-bit? 2. Internet security suite. Q: Norton Internet Security 2008? I know, that everything is compatible with 32-bit OS, but it can handle only 3,25GB of RAM... though, not all is compatible with 64-bit OS, but it can handle all 4GB of RAM. Question: what is better to choose? Now a days we need not only anti-virus protection, but also protection against malware and hackers (that includes good firewall). Question: is Norton Internet Security 2008 a right choice? Please, give me your advices and answers on all that (PROS and CONS). Thank you. Edited: Also, I need help with setting up a correct/working internet connection and home network. Right now, I am working on my old PC from my room, which is connection thrue network card by TV cable (DOCSIS 2.0 technology) to server PC in other room. Take a look at P5K-E/WiFi-AP (Asus) motherboard... what types of connection do I have to choose from? Will I have to change something in my home network to connect to the internet? This is VERY important. Thank you. Last edited by Apollo1020; 18-02-2008 at 05:13 PM. Reason: Internet connection...

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Apollo1020 Big Geek Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Status: Offline	Ok, thanks donkey42, thanks RHochstenbach... thanks guys. So, about 1st question... of course, 64-bit OS is far more ahead, than 32-bit, but if a program/game is working on 32-bit only, will it work on 64-bit (properly) or it will need a special compability for that? About 2nd question... yes, the only thing, that bothers be about Norton Internet Security 2008, is that it can't be properly removed from the system. Otherwise - it's a great product, I've tested it myself. Edited: And about home network / internet connection... thanks, donkey42, you've helped me in understanding the infrastructure of it. To place the info correctly: My PC in my room is connected to a server PC in other room thrue a network card (same with a server PC) by a TV cable. The data rate between them is 100Mbits/sec, but the internet is working on 12Mbits/sec, because a server PC is connected to a cable modem by USB wire. I hope I've got it right and haven't confused nobody... so, my question, is: what shall I change/upgrade (to not install a network card in my new PC) to make a proper 100Mbits/sec connection from my new PC at my room? Thanks. Last edited by Apollo1020; 18-02-2008 at 05:35 PM.

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Pimp Captain of USS Defiant Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 22 Male Posts: 876 Times Helpful: 28 My Mood: Dangerous Status: Offline My Computer	I think it would be a good idea if you chose 64bit os but certainly not vista ultimate. It's not worth it, you should get vista home premium instead save you a lot of money but if you really want to spend extra money just to have a logo that says ultimate then that's your choice. I understand it has a few more programs and stuff you can play with but not worth it in my opinion. As for internet security Norton ain't good at all just like what the other guys said. I would recommend you get NOD 32 or Kaspersky they are really good i have used them before. Just curious to know the 4GB ram your going to use is it DDR2 or 3??? sorry if there are loads of spelling mistakes in this or bad grammar but i kind of typed it in a hurry __________________ "Space has no boundary, that is empirically more certain than any external observation. However, that does not imply that space is infinite" - Bernhard Riemann

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Apollo1020 Big Geek Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Status: Offline	To place the info correctly: My PC in my room is connected to a server PC in other room thrue a network card (same with a server PC) by a TV cable. The data rate between them is 100Mbits/sec, but the internet is working on 12Mbits/sec, because a server PC is connected to a cable modem by USB wire. I hope I've got it right and haven't confused nobody... so, my question, is: what shall I change/upgrade (to not install a network card in my new PC) to make a proper 100Mbits/sec connection from my new PC at my room? Thanks a lot. P.S. Tell me if it's possible without using a network card (only motherboard) from my new PC.

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