my new router

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 04:42 PM

right guys, mum just rang me to inform me that something has arrived (over a week late) now i know i can piggyback multiple routers, however, my original router is bog standard ADSL, but the new 1 (if it is actually what i ordered) is ADSL, ADSL2 n ADSL2+

now for my question: can both routers work simultaneously on the same ADSL line, i know it will not be any faster with both routers than using 1

obviously, without damaging anything

and i think i just need to enter: username, password, MAC address n obviously DNS n stuff, but, do i need anything else

Edit: obviously i'll be waiting for a reply to this post before i connect anything,

Impotence · 06-02-2008, 03:55 PM

I've allways assumed that you can only have one ADSL modem connected to the ADSL line.... i might be wrong but i've never read anything which suggested otherwise

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 04:20 PM

no, you can piggy back them, but, i can't find where i read it, please bear with me and i'll just install scribus & i'll make you a nice pic of how it works, if i can remember

but it will still only download at the same rate as 1 router, presumably, you can piggyback routers to aid with the installation of a new 1, so, presumably, piggybacking them will not damage anything

Off Topic:

will try to find where i read it

Addis · 06-02-2008, 04:28 PM

I've never heard of that before. I know you can configure one as a switch so that DHCP services don't interfere, and then use them together, but one the same ADSL line I don't think it's possible.

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 04:39 PM

daddy (AT) please tell em, because get the distinct impresion they don't believe me

Off Topic:

cos i still can't find where i read it

wait...someone wrote about it at TLF here

BTW: still searching

Addis · 06-02-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkey42

daddy (AT) please tell em, because get the distinct impresion they don't believe me

Off Topic:

cos i still can't find where i read it

wait...someone wrote about it at TLF here

BTW: still searching

I'm not doubting you can connect 2 routers together, just sharing the ADSL line. Still not 100% sure, but it's just something I've never heard of.

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 05:27 PM

i think it is used to add more functionality to your network e.g. add a wireless router to an existing network to obviously add wireless connectivity to an existing network

Impotence · 06-02-2008, 05:36 PM

the TFL post does not mention having both routers plugged into the same phone line, its describing methods for plugging one router into the other (using network cables)

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impy

the TFL post does not mention having both routers plugged into the same phone line, its describing methods for plugging one router into the other (using network cables)

found something else here

Quote:

Usually you can piggy back routers together using the last port (4th port in a 4-port router or 8th port in an 8 port router).

Depends on which type of router you have, but usually piggy backing is doable.

Source

BTW still searching wiki & google

i think i used the wrong term i think the term is "daisy chain" multiple routers

Quote:

Okay, so I also have two routers... one is the main one which recieves the DSL modem into the "WAN/INTERNET" port, and the other is a 4 port router which also has the "WAN/INTERNET" port. my question is, can i take a line from the main router and plug it into the WAN port of the second router? This would leave me with 4 open ports for 4 PCs to plug into....

OR.... do i have to use a regular port, which would allow me 3 open ports for PC's?

71.221.45.1 18:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

* You can daisy chain routers like that

Source

near the bottom of the page

Addis · 06-02-2008, 06:39 PM

Yes, you can daisy chain them. However you asked if you could use them both on the same ADSL line, which would require you to split the ADSL line into 2, one going into each router. That's the part that was being questioned by myself and Impotence.

donkey42 · 06-02-2008, 06:47 PM

thankies both or you, i've actually rediscoveded what daisy chaining actually is, so, you both right & i'm wrong (as usual)

BTW: thank you for getting me to try to prove myself, i really do appreciate it, and sorry

Edit: sh1t, theres so much to learn / understand before i can start to even think about connecting / using this new router, is there a quick / easy way to lean this crap

BTW: sorry for the misunderstanding

Edit: & will it be hard to swith back to my current router after i've setup DDNS & stuff ?

06-02-2008, 04:42 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
donkey42 Paranoid Geeky Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Male Posts: 5,817 Times Helpful: 309 My Mood: Paranoid Status: Offline My Computer	my new router right guys, mum just rang me to inform me that something has arrived (over a week late) now i know i can piggyback multiple routers, however, my original router is bog standard ADSL, but the new 1 (if it is actually what i ordered) is ADSL, ADSL2 n ADSL2+ now for my question: can both routers work simultaneously on the same ADSL line, i know it will not be any faster with both routers than using 1 obviously, without damaging anything and i think i just need to enter: username, password, MAC address n obviously DNS n stuff, but, do i need anything else Edit: obviously i'll be waiting for a reply to this post before i connect anything, __________________ GRUB manual \| Google Linux \| Distrowatch \| Linux Chix \| Kubuntu \| My Mini City Last edited by donkey42; 06-02-2008 at 04:50 PM. Reason: edit

06-02-2008, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
Impotence May the source be with u! Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 19 Male Posts: 1,878 Times Helpful: 126 My Mood: Stressed Status: Offline My Computer	I've allways assumed that you can only have one ADSL modem connected to the ADSL line.... i might be wrong but i've never read anything which suggested otherwise __________________ Dear intel,Already Made My Decision Never trust a computer you can't repair yourself. Windows Vista - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware Why Linux is Better!\|Pastafairianism\|Say no to National ID\|Firefox Extensions Guide scientology has been getting alot of attention recently When the rich wage war, it is the poor who die. Where are the WMD's that our governments used to justify the war?

06-02-2008, 04:20 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
donkey42 Paranoid Geeky Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Male Posts: 5,817 Times Helpful: 309 My Mood: Paranoid Status: Offline My Computer	no, you can piggy back them, but, i can't find where i read it, please bear with me and i'll just install scribus & i'll make you a nice pic of how it works, if i can remember but it will still only download at the same rate as 1 router, presumably, you can piggyback routers to aid with the installation of a new 1, so, presumably, piggybacking them will not damage anything Off Topic: will try to find where i read it __________________ GRUB manual \| Google Linux \| Distrowatch \| Linux Chix \| Kubuntu \| My Mini City

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Addis The King Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 18 Male Posts: 5,255 Times Helpful: 403 My Mood: Drunk Status: Offline My Computer	I've never heard of that before. I know you can configure one as a switch so that DHCP services don't interfere, and then use them together, but one the same ADSL line I don't think it's possible. __________________ Never trust a program you don't have the source code for. My website \| Powerful Desktop Linux \| Linux for human beings \| Linux for power users \| Linux for ricers

06-02-2008, 04:39 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
donkey42 Paranoid Geeky Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Male Posts: 5,817 Times Helpful: 309 My Mood: Paranoid Status: Offline My Computer	daddy (AT) please tell em, because get the distinct impresion they don't believe me Off Topic: cos i still can't find where i read it wait...someone wrote about it at TLF here BTW: still searching __________________ GRUB manual \| Google Linux \| Distrowatch \| Linux Chix \| Kubuntu \| My Mini City

06-02-2008, 05:27 PM	#7 (permalink) Top
donkey42 Paranoid Geeky Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Male Posts: 5,817 Times Helpful: 309 My Mood: Paranoid Status: Offline My Computer	i think it is used to add more functionality to your network e.g. add a wireless router to an existing network to obviously add wireless connectivity to an existing network __________________ GRUB manual \| Google Linux \| Distrowatch \| Linux Chix \| Kubuntu \| My Mini City

06-02-2008, 05:36 PM	#8 (permalink) Top
Impotence May the source be with u! Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 19 Male Posts: 1,878 Times Helpful: 126 My Mood: Stressed Status: Offline My Computer	the TFL post does not mention having both routers plugged into the same phone line, its describing methods for plugging one router into the other (using network cables) __________________ Dear intel,Already Made My Decision Never trust a computer you can't repair yourself. Windows Vista - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware Why Linux is Better!\|Pastafairianism\|Say no to National ID\|Firefox Extensions Guide scientology has been getting alot of attention recently When the rich wage war, it is the poor who die. Where are the WMD's that our governments used to justify the war?

06-02-2008, 06:39 PM	#10 (permalink) Top
Addis The King Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 18 Male Posts: 5,255 Times Helpful: 403 My Mood: Drunk Status: Offline My Computer	Yes, you can daisy chain them. However you asked if you could use them both on the same ADSL line, which would require you to split the ADSL line into 2, one going into each router. That's the part that was being questioned by myself and Impotence. __________________ Never trust a program you don't have the source code for. My website \| Powerful Desktop Linux \| Linux for human beings \| Linux for power users \| Linux for ricers

06-02-2008, 06:47 PM	#11 (permalink) Top
donkey42 Paranoid Geeky Geek Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Male Posts: 5,817 Times Helpful: 309 My Mood: Paranoid Status: Offline My Computer	thankies both or you, i've actually rediscoveded what daisy chaining actually is, so, you both right & i'm wrong (as usual) BTW: thank you for getting me to try to prove myself, i really do appreciate it, and sorry Edit: sh1t, theres so much to learn / understand before i can start to even think about connecting / using this new router, is there a quick / easy way to lean this crap BTW: sorry for the misunderstanding Edit: & will it be hard to swith back to my current router after i've setup DDNS & stuff ? __________________ GRUB manual \| Google Linux \| Distrowatch \| Linux Chix \| Kubuntu \| My Mini City Last edited by donkey42; 06-02-2008 at 08:14 PM. Reason: typo

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