Pre-release Vista copy coming my way

NeloForster · 29-12-2006, 05:14 PM

It doesn't apply to part timers like you Aaron

There were forms handed out and basically we get an intensive Vista training course then we start training people in the workplace. Who knows man, I might end up training you

Journeyman · 29-12-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeloForster

It doesn't apply to part timers like you Aaron

There were forms handed out and basically we get an intensive Vista training course then we start training people in the workplace. Who knows man, I might end up training you

That takes the complete and utter piss... I tell you that place is full of crap.
Meh i dont need training on vista... :/

Willz · 29-12-2006, 05:07 PM

Vista is basically Xp thats been revamped, NT5.2.1. lol

I heard that its apparently based off of Windows Server 2003 more than XP, but Server 2003 was paractically Windows XP aswell..

Matt · 10-01-2007, 06:21 PM

Vista sound like a load of crap to me. It will cost a lot of money as has already been said and it will use extra ram. Im going to wait untill it becomes very mainstream (if it ever happens) untill i even think of spending money on it.

NeloForster · 10-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Here's something extremely interesting from the guys that have been testing Vista first at my workplace...

The Vista installation DVD comes with an image of the Vista operating system intact. Quite simply, if your installation of vista goes wrong somehow, you can load a factory-settings Windows Vista up from the DVD, navigate your HDD, back up your files with no problems, then fix or reinstall the HDD installation of Vista...

No more losing all your files from an OS fault

This alone has already got me sold. How easy it is to lose everything on XP is my only major dislike about XP... And if that problem is solved in Vista then I can't complain...

Mike

Karanislove · 10-01-2007, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

Here's something extremely interesting from the guys that have been testing Vista first at my workplace...

The Vista installation DVD comes with an image of the Vista operating system intact. Quite simply, if your installation of vista goes wrong somehow, you can load a factory-settings Windows Vista up from the DVD, navigate your HDD, back up your files with no problems, then fix or reinstall the HDD installation of Vista...

No more losing all your files from an OS fault This alone has already got me sold. How easy it is to lose everything on XP is my only major dislike about XP... And if that problem is solved in Vista then I can't complain...

Mike
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1. That live CD comes with the Linux as well...
2. You can cure this problem with Win XP as well... I mean u cant run win XP live but if you create a separate partition for the OS then u dnt have to worry about rest of the drives unless UR hardware drives goes bang... U will be only formating that OS partition and the rest will remain untouched...(This is a very good thing which I've learned from Megamaced

)

NeloForster · 10-01-2007, 11:34 PM

That's exactly what I do, but despite making a partition just for Windows XP, Windows XP likes to format the entire drive against my commands which makes me sick beyond belief as the drive that all my games are installed to is the WinXP drive because it's the fastest of the 3 I have.

It's more a blessing for me because at my workplace we have to help customers of Curry's, Dixons, and PC World with their PC's. PC manufacturers don't give customers normal XP CD's, but rather a recovery CD which either overwrites the windows files to repair, or totally reformats the PC obliterating all partitions except the hidden partition, and restoring everything to factory settings.

At least with Vista customers won't have a go at me for data loss...

And as for Linux, I'm sure I'd love it for word processing, but I'm a gamer... See my problem

Thanks for the advice,

Mike

Karanislove · 11-01-2007, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelofroster

And as for Linux, I'm sure I'd love it for word processing, but I'm a gamer... See my problem

Well... I dont have much knowledge about linux If you have a Live CD of linux then I think that you can still do the same thing... Run it on the system on copy whatever you want to do or something. So basically you can run it over XP as well...Just like u said Vista!

NeloForster · 11-01-2007, 12:43 PM

Genius! I never thought of using Linux just for that...

Thanks!

Mike

Karanislove · 11-01-2007, 07:45 PM

you are welcome

daworz · 05-03-2007, 08:23 PM

NeloForster,
Hey just purchased a new laptop for my daughter, and it came with Vista, if i have any problems can i contact you here?

NeloForster · 06-03-2007, 12:38 AM

Feel free to do so, I'll always do my best to help, but a biiiiig phrase to remember with Vista is "Hardware incompatability" - Cause chances are you'll install a digital camera and it just won't work... If you come accross anything like that, check the hardware manufacturers website for any fixes or new drivers for the device.

If that doesn't help, come back here and I'll see what I can do.

Regards,

Mike

Willz · 06-03-2007, 08:37 AM

daworz, If I was you, I would install XP untill SP1 for Vista comes out, also if the laptop has 1GB of ram, things may slow down.

NeloForster · 06-03-2007, 03:51 PM

But if this laptop is one from a manufacturer (Well, it'd be hard not to be from a manufacturer being a laptop), removing the OS it came with and installing a different one causes problems unimaginable. For example, people rang me up at my previous workplace with manufacturered PC's/laptops saying they installed their own copy of XP or Vista onto the machine and it no longer worked - devices didn't appear in device manager, constant blue screens etc. This is because the manufacturer includes a copy of the OS which has been modified in a way that only that modified version of the OS will work on their particular machine.

If you do install XP on the laptop, make sure you don't delete the recovery partition during setup (But this is fine if your machine came with recovery CD's). You can use this to reinstall Vista on the machine at any time if you have problems after installing XP. If this recovery partition is overwritten, chances are you'd have to buy a new copy of Windows Vista because manufacturers aren't fond of supplying replacement recovery media unless the original problem is that there was an issue with their poduct, rather than a customer-induced issue.

Hope this helps,

Mike

woodmaster · 09-04-2007, 03:47 PM

Hi there Neloforster My current gamming rig is fairly new which I built my self and it has 250 gig hard drive, can I install Vista on another hard drive and use it as a dual system, is this ok to do,will it be stable or is it better to wipe my XP and do a fresh Vista install I only use my rig for games realy and i want to be ready for DX10 which I should be able to get a 8800 card in few weeks its just that I like playing some of the older games somtimes, thanx for any help and any tips you can provide

29-12-2006, 05:14 PM	#46 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	It doesn't apply to part timers like you Aaron There were forms handed out and basically we get an intensive Vista training course then we start training people in the workplace. Who knows man, I might end up training you __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

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Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	Vista is basically Xp thats been revamped, NT5.2.1. lol I heard that its apparently based off of Windows Server 2003 more than XP, but Server 2003 was paractically Windows XP aswell.. __________________

10-01-2007, 09:57 PM	#50 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	Here's something extremely interesting from the guys that have been testing Vista first at my workplace... The Vista installation DVD comes with an image of the Vista operating system intact. Quite simply, if your installation of vista goes wrong somehow, you can load a factory-settings Windows Vista up from the DVD, navigate your HDD, back up your files with no problems, then fix or reinstall the HDD installation of Vista... No more losing all your files from an OS fault This alone has already got me sold. How easy it is to lose everything on XP is my only major dislike about XP... And if that problem is solved in Vista then I can't complain... Mike __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

10-01-2007, 11:34 PM	#52 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	That's exactly what I do, but despite making a partition just for Windows XP, Windows XP likes to format the entire drive against my commands which makes me sick beyond belief as the drive that all my games are installed to is the WinXP drive because it's the fastest of the 3 I have. It's more a blessing for me because at my workplace we have to help customers of Curry's, Dixons, and PC World with their PC's. PC manufacturers don't give customers normal XP CD's, but rather a recovery CD which either overwrites the windows files to repair, or totally reformats the PC obliterating all partitions except the hidden partition, and restoring everything to factory settings. At least with Vista customers won't have a go at me for data loss... And as for Linux, I'm sure I'd love it for word processing, but I'm a gamer... See my problem Thanks for the advice, Mike __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

11-01-2007, 12:43 PM	#54 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	Genius! I never thought of using Linux just for that... Thanks! Mike __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

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Matt Oblivion Junky Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 17 Male Posts: 375 Times Helpful: 15 My Mood: Dead Status: Offline My Computer	Vista sound like a load of crap to me. It will cost a lot of money as has already been said and it will use extra ram. Im going to wait untill it becomes very mainstream (if it ever happens) untill i even think of spending money on it.

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daworz Geek Trainee Join Date: Mar 2006 Gender: Posts: 14 Status: Offline	NeloForster, Hey just purchased a new laptop for my daughter, and it came with Vista, if i have any problems can i contact you here?

06-03-2007, 12:38 AM	#57 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	Feel free to do so, I'll always do my best to help, but a biiiiig phrase to remember with Vista is "Hardware incompatability" - Cause chances are you'll install a digital camera and it just won't work... If you come accross anything like that, check the hardware manufacturers website for any fixes or new drivers for the device. If that doesn't help, come back here and I'll see what I can do. Regards, Mike __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

06-03-2007, 08:37 AM	#58 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	daworz, If I was you, I would install XP untill SP1 for Vista comes out, also if the laptop has 1GB of ram, things may slow down. __________________

06-03-2007, 03:51 PM	#59 (permalink) Top
NeloForster Source of Exyphetadolamin Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 145 Times Helpful: 11 My Mood: Relaxed Status: Offline My Computer	But if this laptop is one from a manufacturer (Well, it'd be hard not to be from a manufacturer being a laptop), removing the OS it came with and installing a different one causes problems unimaginable. For example, people rang me up at my previous workplace with manufacturered PC's/laptops saying they installed their own copy of XP or Vista onto the machine and it no longer worked - devices didn't appear in device manager, constant blue screens etc. This is because the manufacturer includes a copy of the OS which has been modified in a way that only that modified version of the OS will work on their particular machine. If you do install XP on the laptop, make sure you don't delete the recovery partition during setup (But this is fine if your machine came with recovery CD's). You can use this to reinstall Vista on the machine at any time if you have problems after installing XP. If this recovery partition is overwritten, chances are you'd have to buy a new copy of Windows Vista because manufacturers aren't fond of supplying replacement recovery media unless the original problem is that there was an issue with their poduct, rather than a customer-induced issue. Hope this helps, Mike __________________ "Windows cannot open readme.txt because there is a possibility of it being a file"

09-04-2007, 03:47 PM	#60 (permalink) Top
woodmaster Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 36 Status: Offline	Hi there Neloforster My current gamming rig is fairly new which I built my self and it has 250 gig hard drive, can I install Vista on another hard drive and use it as a dual system, is this ok to do,will it be stable or is it better to wipe my XP and do a fresh Vista install I only use my rig for games realy and i want to be ready for DX10 which I should be able to get a 8800 card in few weeks its just that I like playing some of the older games somtimes, thanx for any help and any tips you can provide

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