Quake 4 + 360 = disaster

Exfoliate · 24-11-2005, 09:52 PM

Okay well not exactly that bad but concidering the hype over the power and visual might of the console you'd sure expect anything the developers though at it to run great right? Especially the lauch titles. We'll so is not the case with Quake 4. Apparently, according to GameSpot: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...e4/review.html there are some major fps problems with this PC port. Looks like there was no optimization at all and the result was ugly and choppy. It's a real shame for anyone who just payed $300-400 on a console, $60 on the game, and who knows how much on a HDTV if they didn't have one only to get a really poor experience. We'll at least highend PC owners can rejoice over this one.

pelvis_3 · 24-11-2005, 09:53 PM

Hooray for PC's

Willz · 24-11-2005, 10:05 PM

XBOX 360 is a total waste of time, i played it today in gamestation shop in york, bloddy crap the graphics were, infact the only good thinkgs about the graphics is, lighting, and things like coble stones looks more 3d when closer up, appart from that, in alot of games, i could compare those graphics to the ps2 and xbox, and that xbox 360 was damnd loud, and it had 1 inch plastic coating around it.

yet another breeze block from microsoft, even the controlers look cheap and nasty.

so the xbox 360 struggles to run quake 4 on what would be maximum settings on pc, the graphics card inside the xbox cant be that good then :\.

pelvis_3 · 24-11-2005, 10:11 PM

What game were you playing on the 360?

Exfoliate · 25-11-2005, 04:09 AM

In all fairness these are the first crop of games, I'm sure every console goes though a rough patch in the beginning. For $400 the fact that it can run Quake 4 somewhat is pretty good. There are plenty of other sweet games that run perfectly at 60fps, like Perfect Dark 0 and Kameo Power Element and look exceptional. You may have been playing a game also available on the other consoles like Gun or whatever and in that regard it will look about the same as on a PS2. And as I said in another thread sometimes store owners don't use the proper cables or a good TV so the games come out looking a little cheesy for what you'd expect. Naturally this should all be smoothed out as the console ages.

Willz · 26-11-2005, 11:17 AM

the game that i was playing was errm, i dont know, but you were like this woman with wings of somthing that could transform into this blue bear kind of monstor, and your in a castle, and there is these giant green monsters.

The tv was a good tv it was on, it was a special xbox with loads of other stuff on too.

Waffle · 26-11-2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhub

the game that i was playing was errm, i dont know, but you were like this woman with wings of somthing that could transform into this blue bear kind of monstor, and your in a castle, and there is these giant green monsters.

The tv was a good tv it was on, it was a special xbox with loads of other stuff on too.

Nice and specific

I'm not gonna get one yet, I rarely game nowadays, but I will probably consider it after Xmas, when prices drop. Games do look fairly awesome though.

And no offence intended but what kind of english is The tv was a good tv it was on

haha made me laugh.

Willz · 26-11-2005, 04:13 PM

stop picking on my english, u know wot i mean, i dont understand how a bit of bad english can make you laugh.

ok, the tv the xbox 360 was using, was a fairly high end tv << is that more to your liking??

Exfoliate · 26-11-2005, 06:03 PM

Waffles was just messing with you man, no harm intended

Sounds like you were checking out Kameo, I've heard the first hour of the game was pretty bad and you were just thrown right into the mix and only afterwards were you given a pointless tutorial about stuff you obvioulsy would have known by now, like how to move. Supposed to get a lot better as it goes on though.

Anti-Trend · 05-12-2005, 08:24 PM

John Carmack predicted this from the moment he heard MS was going with a 3-PPC console rather than a single fast x86-64. He said they'd have performance problems, and it'd be difficult to get multi-threaded games which are optimized for 3 PPCs to run stable due to the uneven amount of CPUs (no cross-thread checking possible). I figure by the time they get the hang of programming for the XB360, PS3 will be out with its cell processor (much easier to write for)... not to mention how far PC gaming will have come by then.

Bottom line? I'll own an XBox 360 when somebody gives me one, including all the games, for free. Not before then.

-AT

Exfoliate · 05-12-2005, 08:32 PM

I see what you're saying but a lot of the current single threaded games like Perfect Dark 0, Kameo, Call of Duty 2, etc. look great and run just fine. Just some of the ports don't work out so great, it's pretty early in the game to say what will happen. I also have read that the 360 has superior developer tools as well.

ninja fetus · 06-12-2005, 05:32 AM

so by the time MS smooths the xbox 360 out, they'll have a different name for it and call it a different name. reminds me of what they did with win2k and xp.

Anti-Trend · 06-12-2005, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja fetus

so by the time MS smooths the xbox 360 out, they'll have a different name for it and call it a different name. reminds me of what they did with win2k and xp.

...except in that case, Windows 2000 was superior to the later version in many ways.

ninja fetus · 06-12-2005, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Trend

...except in that case, Windows 2000 was superior to the later version in many ways.

true, true but I was just trying to example MS's originality

Exfoliate · 06-12-2005, 09:26 PM

MS still has plenty of time to get more 360's out the door and work on the probs, Sony won't be releasing the PS3's anytime soon, June looks like the very earliest but I've heard as late as Christmas 06.

24-11-2005, 09:52 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	Quake 4 + 360 = disaster Okay well not exactly that bad but concidering the hype over the power and visual might of the console you'd sure expect anything the developers though at it to run great right? Especially the lauch titles. We'll so is not the case with Quake 4. Apparently, according to GameSpot: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...e4/review.html there are some major fps problems with this PC port. Looks like there was no optimization at all and the result was ugly and choppy. It's a real shame for anyone who just payed $300-400 on a console, $60 on the game, and who knows how much on a HDTV if they didn't have one only to get a really poor experience. We'll at least highend PC owners can rejoice over this one. __________________

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Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	XBOX 360 is a total waste of time, i played it today in gamestation shop in york, bloddy crap the graphics were, infact the only good thinkgs about the graphics is, lighting, and things like coble stones looks more 3d when closer up, appart from that, in alot of games, i could compare those graphics to the ps2 and xbox, and that xbox 360 was damnd loud, and it had 1 inch plastic coating around it. yet another breeze block from microsoft, even the controlers look cheap and nasty. so the xbox 360 struggles to run quake 4 on what would be maximum settings on pc, the graphics card inside the xbox cant be that good then :\. __________________ Last edited by Willz; 24-11-2005 at 10:08 PM.

24-11-2005, 10:11 PM	#4 (permalink) Top
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25-11-2005, 04:09 AM	#5 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	In all fairness these are the first crop of games, I'm sure every console goes though a rough patch in the beginning. For $400 the fact that it can run Quake 4 somewhat is pretty good. There are plenty of other sweet games that run perfectly at 60fps, like Perfect Dark 0 and Kameo Power Element and look exceptional. You may have been playing a game also available on the other consoles like Gun or whatever and in that regard it will look about the same as on a PS2. And as I said in another thread sometimes store owners don't use the proper cables or a good TV so the games come out looking a little cheesy for what you'd expect. Naturally this should all be smoothed out as the console ages. __________________

26-11-2005, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	the game that i was playing was errm, i dont know, but you were like this woman with wings of somthing that could transform into this blue bear kind of monstor, and your in a castle, and there is these giant green monsters. The tv was a good tv it was on, it was a special xbox with loads of other stuff on too. __________________

26-11-2005, 04:13 PM	#8 (permalink) Top
Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,234 Times Helpful: 150 My Mood: Lurking Status: Offline My Computer	stop picking on my english, u know wot i mean, i dont understand how a bit of bad english can make you laugh. ok, the tv the xbox 360 was using, was a fairly high end tv << is that more to your liking?? __________________

26-11-2005, 06:03 PM	#9 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	Waffles was just messing with you man, no harm intended Sounds like you were checking out Kameo, I've heard the first hour of the game was pretty bad and you were just thrown right into the mix and only afterwards were you given a pointless tutorial about stuff you obvioulsy would have known by now, like how to move. Supposed to get a lot better as it goes on though. __________________

05-12-2005, 08:24 PM	#10 (permalink) Top
Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 27 Male Posts: 4,882 Times Helpful: 538 Status: Offline My Computer	John Carmack predicted this from the moment he heard MS was going with a 3-PPC console rather than a single fast x86-64. He said they'd have performance problems, and it'd be difficult to get multi-threaded games which are optimized for 3 PPCs to run stable due to the uneven amount of CPUs (no cross-thread checking possible). I figure by the time they get the hang of programming for the XB360, PS3 will be out with its cell processor (much easier to write for)... not to mention how far PC gaming will have come by then. Bottom line? I'll own an XBox 360 when somebody gives me one, including all the games, for free. Not before then. -AT __________________ See My Desktop \| Try Linux \| Install Linux \| Visit My Server \| Support Hardware Forums \| Easily rip DVDs in Linux \| Remember Everything

05-12-2005, 08:32 PM	#11 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	I see what you're saying but a lot of the current single threaded games like Perfect Dark 0, Kameo, Call of Duty 2, etc. look great and run just fine. Just some of the ports don't work out so great, it's pretty early in the game to say what will happen. I also have read that the 360 has superior developer tools as well. __________________

06-12-2005, 05:32 AM	#12 (permalink) Top
ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 18 Male Posts: 3,525 Times Helpful: 70 Status: Offline My Computer	so by the time MS smooths the xbox 360 out, they'll have a different name for it and call it a different name. reminds me of what they did with win2k and xp.

06-12-2005, 09:26 PM	#15 (permalink) Top
Exfoliate Captain Dial-up Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 19 Male Posts: 4,258 Times Helpful: 223 Status: Offline My Computer	MS still has plenty of time to get more 360's out the door and work on the probs, Sony won't be releasing the PS3's anytime soon, June looks like the very earliest but I've heard as late as Christmas 06. __________________

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