Road Tax

Swansen · 09-04-2007, 01:50 PM

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You have got to be kidding me, they make you pay for driving on the roads, so you buy gas, insurence, and everything else, but now you have to pay to use the roads as well. WHY is this such a GREAT idea, ok i understand that it alleviates traffic, and blah blah, but seriously, i can't see how this is going to fix anything. So all the traffic that was on the roads, now just crowds the bus, so now they have crowded buses??? this is dumb

Big B · 09-04-2007, 12:55 PM

I agree, but unfortunately, some people want to do it for environmental reasons, and more money in the coffers of the government are always appealing. It's the start of another "sin" tax.

Addis · 09-04-2007, 04:02 PM

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So all the traffic that was on the roads, now just crowds the bus, so now they have crowded buses???

Well at least they'll be used well then, better than crowded roads.

Swansen · 09-04-2007, 10:07 PM

yeah, i dunno, its good but at the same time its crazy. If there are a ton of people making the same commute everyday, and only go to work or where ever and then straight back home this seems like a good idea. But if you have to drive for work, or once you get there you have to go to a few other places, this seems crazy. I dunno, i just hope the US doesn't adopt this on major highways/freeways. (yes, i know they are already on turnpikes, and state borders, but thats not really that bad, you can go around them)

Karanislove · 09-04-2007, 10:38 PM

Not only the US...NZ is also planing to do this thing. Also I read in a newspaper that England will be doing this soon as well. The reason they are saying is too much traffic on the roads and air pollution. I dont like this idea too because it reduces the flexibility if you have to use the Public transport....

ferg · 10-04-2007, 11:31 AM

We've always had road tax in the UK, and now we have congestion charges in the main cities! 130 squid a year... harsh

Karanislove · 10-04-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ferg

We've always had road tax in the UK, and now we have congestion charges in the main cities! 130 squid a year... harsh

Sh*t...n how much traffic is in UK??

ferg · 10-04-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Karanislove

Sh*t...n how much traffic is in UK??

Too bloody much! ^_^

Karanislove · 10-04-2007, 09:19 PM

wow..so that means tax on the roads will not help at all in reducing traffic only fill the govt pockets....

ferg · 10-04-2007, 10:08 PM

We also have insanely high fuel tax, from bbc website:

"..If a litre of unleaded petrol costs 85p, 21.7p will be the production costs and profit, around 51p will be duty and 12.5p will be VAT on top of all that..."

Driving is a very expensive game in the UK! :'(

Karanislove · 10-04-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg

Driving is a very expensive game in the UK! :'(

I rekon one shud buy a petrol pump in UK...
If after all this traffic hasnt decreased then it means the Income rate must be higher as well..

zeus · 11-04-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Swansen

You have got to be kidding me, they make you pay for driving on the roads, so you buy gas, insurgence, and everything else, but now you have to pay to use the roads as well.

lol, Ive not read the article, I dont have time, but does this mean some countries dont have to pay!? It costs £10 a day to drive in london, on top of your tax, insurance, MOT and cost of the car and petrol. In the countries where you dont pay tax.... where does the cash come from to fix the roads, roadsigns, traffic cameras n stuff?
Here is a list of what we pay....
The cost of vehicle tax : Directgov - Motoring

From the environmental point of view im all for road tax based of the price of the vehicle. If you can afford a £50k merc and an £80k Range Rover to go with your £3m london apartment whats a couple of hundred quid road tax. Its not going to cap your driving or change the car your buy. But if the tax was £3000 a year on these cars it might make people think twice. We just need to ban cars, lightbulbs, standby switches and everything else in the world. China included

I think we should bin off the majority of the council tax bill too (let me guess, we're the only country who has to pay tax simply to be in the street?) and start putting rubbish in rubbish bins with a barcode, then when the bin goes on the wagon its weighed and you are billed. Recycle bins are obviously free! It lowers council tax and gets people recycling. Its up to you if you can afford not to recycle.

shortcake · 11-04-2007, 06:49 PM

I pay about 60 every six months for tax. If i get a faster car it will go up to about 90 i think. I wouldnt mind paying this if the roads were actually kept well maintained. My suspension is awfull at the moment and will have to pay out alot of money to get it sorted. Pot holes and things are the biggest offenders!

They are also thinking of trialling congestion charges at the end of my road (Manchester). Thats rediculous as i would have to pay to get off my own road!!!

Swansen · 11-04-2007, 08:23 PM

yeah, like Karan said, it seems more like we would be paying this tax, just to put money into the governments pockets.

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Karanislove It's D Grav80 Of Luv Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 23 Male Posts: 3,460 Times Helpful: 160 My Mood: Cool Status: Offline My Computer	wow..so that means tax on the roads will not help at all in reducing traffic only fill the govt pockets.... __________________ __________________________________________________ ___ Troubleshoot a Dead/Unbootable PC / Microsoft Events Viewer Troubleshoot Printer / Most Common Home Audio Problems_

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ferg Manbearpig Join Date: May 2004 Age: 25 Male Posts: 539 Times Helpful: 26 My Mood: Innocent Status: Offline My Computer	We also have insanely high fuel tax, from bbc website: "..If a litre of unleaded petrol costs 85p, 21.7p will be the production costs and profit, around 51p will be duty and 12.5p will be VAT on top of all that..." Driving is a very expensive game in the UK! :'( __________________ FREE STUFF Spybot S&D Ad-Aware Spyware Blaster Comodo Free Firewall Speedfan Ad Block Plus (Plugin for Firefox)

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shortcake Big Geek Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 21 Female Posts: 103 My Mood: Amazed Status: Offline	I pay about 60 every six months for tax. If i get a faster car it will go up to about 90 i think. I wouldnt mind paying this if the roads were actually kept well maintained. My suspension is awfull at the moment and will have to pay out alot of money to get it sorted. Pot holes and things are the biggest offenders! They are also thinking of trialling congestion charges at the end of my road (Manchester). Thats rediculous as i would have to pay to get off my own road!!! __________________

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