Source Lag with Amazing Comp!? Help

Celtzer · 12-06-2007, 04:17 AM

Specs:
Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb
ASUS P5NSLI Mobo
2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram
SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache
Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb
550Watt Ultra Power supply

My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs:

ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm

Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?

Celtzer · 12-06-2007, 04:04 AM

Specs:
Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb
ASUS P5NSLI Mobo
2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram
SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache
Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb
550Watt Ultra Power supply

My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs:

ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm

Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?

Wildcard · 12-06-2007, 07:52 PM

Are you both running the same resolution and detail level in source (half life?)?

Anti-Trend · 12-06-2007, 08:38 PM

What operating system are you running? How about your friend?

Celtzer · 12-06-2007, 11:04 PM

Both of us are using Windows XP Pro

Celtzer · 12-06-2007, 11:06 PM

I have everything on low on 1024x768, he uses 640x480 with everything on low

Anti-Trend · 12-06-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtzer

Both of us are using Windows XP Pro

I'd check for the usual culprits in Windows:

Missing, corrupt or outdated hardware drivers
Malware / spyware / bloatware
Superfluous running processes wasting resources (antivirus?)
Registry corruption
Filesystem corruption

In fact, it may be best for you to just do a fresh install and start from scratch. Patch and install latest drivers, defrag (very necessary on NTFS filesystems), and remove or disable any unused software. I'll leave this exercise to your descretion, but it's the best way to get a clean slate in terms of OS-level troubleshooting.

On the hardware level, you can check RAM and bus timings, clock speeds, voltage, and heat dissipation. Also make sure that the HDD's running well, since Windows likes to swap... a lot ... no matter how much RAM you have. If you have a slow / damaged HDD, your Windows system will be slow.

Kastang · 13-06-2007, 01:59 AM

I would do everything mentioned above; I would download a program called CCleaner. I would use the uninstaller from that program to remove unused programs from your computer, also Use the registry cleaner on it.. I use it once every month. If nothing else, it keeps your registry somewhat clean.

Another thing I would check is to make sure you have the newest drivers for your 8800 -- You also might want to try Omega Drivers - They are drivers more geared to gaming rather then the standard generic drivers. I personally use them on my system I find that they make the game run smoother and I gain a few FPS. Don't forget to uninstall your old drivers before installing these.

Also, depending on how old your XP version is, It might be best to format - I dont know how your setup is but I personally have all my games and personal documents on one SATA drive and XP on another, so when I need to format, I dont have to reinstall everything.

Also, Do you play any other games and does it lag in that game also?

Celtzer · 13-06-2007, 03:56 AM

Wow, thanks you two... I really do appreciate it.... The thing is, my source runs fine, but when I record a demo it drops my fps up to 35, while my friend with the lower specs drops his 10-15, and has an average higher fps than me. Thanks for links.

Big B · 13-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Do you have Vsync disabled in the game and in the nVidia control panel?

Celtzer · 13-06-2007, 05:54 PM

Oh trust me, Vsync is disabled, i know all about the video settings it just boggles me how crappy the fps are, especially when i record a demo.

Big B · 13-06-2007, 08:30 PM

Threads merged. For everyone's benefit, including your own, don't make a new thread several places on the exact same subject. One is plenty, and if a mod or admin feels it will work better elsewhere, we'll move it. Thanks!

Now back to your thread.

Big B · 13-06-2007, 08:31 PM

Is he using anything to record his framerates? What are you using to record your framerates?

Celtzer · 13-06-2007, 11:04 PM

Sorry about that Big B, nah there is a command in source where you type net_graph 3 in console and it shows your latency, fps, in/out speed etc.

Anti-Trend · 14-06-2007, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtzer

I have everything on low on 1024x768, he uses 640x480 with everything on low

Well, that's enough to make a pretty big difference right there. Try it at the same resolutions and see what your results look like then.

12-06-2007, 04:17 AM	#1 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Source Lag with Amazing Comp!? Help Specs: Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb ASUS P5NSLI Mobo 2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb 550Watt Ultra Power supply My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs: ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?

12-06-2007, 08:38 PM	#4 (permalink) Top
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13-06-2007, 01:59 AM	#8 (permalink) Top
Kastang Geek Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 54 Status: Offline	I would do everything mentioned above; I would download a program called CCleaner. I would use the uninstaller from that program to remove unused programs from your computer, also Use the registry cleaner on it.. I use it once every month. If nothing else, it keeps your registry somewhat clean. Another thing I would check is to make sure you have the newest drivers for your 8800 -- You also might want to try Omega Drivers - They are drivers more geared to gaming rather then the standard generic drivers. I personally use them on my system I find that they make the game run smoother and I gain a few FPS. Don't forget to uninstall your old drivers before installing these. Also, depending on how old your XP version is, It might be best to format - I dont know how your setup is but I personally have all my games and personal documents on one SATA drive and XP on another, so when I need to format, I dont have to reinstall everything. Also, Do you play any other games and does it lag in that game also? Last edited by Kastang; 13-06-2007 at 02:02 AM.

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13-06-2007, 08:30 PM	#12 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,640 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	Threads merged. For everyone's benefit, including your own, don't make a new thread several places on the exact same subject. One is plenty, and if a mod or admin feels it will work better elsewhere, we'll move it. Thanks! Now back to your thread. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

12-06-2007, 04:04 AM	#2 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Specs: Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb ASUS P5NSLI Mobo 2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb 550Watt Ultra Power supply My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs: ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?

12-06-2007, 07:52 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
Wildcard Big Geek Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 107 Times Helpful: 15 My Mood: Sad Status: Offline My Computer	Are you both running the same resolution and detail level in source (half life?)?

12-06-2007, 11:04 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Both of us are using Windows XP Pro

12-06-2007, 11:06 PM	#6 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	I have everything on low on 1024x768, he uses 640x480 with everything on low

13-06-2007, 03:56 AM	#9 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Wow, thanks you two... I really do appreciate it.... The thing is, my source runs fine, but when I record a demo it drops my fps up to 35, while my friend with the lower specs drops his 10-15, and has an average higher fps than me. Thanks for links.

13-06-2007, 05:54 PM	#11 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Oh trust me, Vsync is disabled, i know all about the video settings it just boggles me how crappy the fps are, especially when i record a demo.

13-06-2007, 08:31 PM	#13 (permalink) Top
Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,640 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	Is he using anything to record his framerates? What are you using to record your framerates? __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

13-06-2007, 11:04 PM	#14 (permalink) Top
Celtzer Geek Trainee Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 24 Status: Offline	Sorry about that Big B, nah there is a command in source where you type net_graph 3 in console and it shows your latency, fps, in/out speed etc.

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