System freeze only at first (cold) start

cliff99 · 21-08-2007, 12:01 PM

Hi,

I have the following problem with my system:
Whenever I turn on my PC after it has been off for some hours it freezes during the first 5 Minutes. This usually happens shortly after log-on (on Win XP and Linux) but also if I wait for 5 Minutes in the boot menu or the bios setup. After the freeze I can restart it and everything works fine, the system is stable for hours. In rare cases I get a second freeze but always only during the first few minutes. I have already made a bios update, checked the RAM with memtest86, and bought a new PSU. Now I am running out of ideas.

System specs:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 + boxed fan
- ASUS P5N-E SLI nForce650i
- MDT DIMM Kit 2048MB PC2-6400U CL5 (DDR2-800)
- PSU: be quiet! Straight Power 600W
- Gainward BLISS 8800 GTS 320MB PCIe

Any ideas how to fix this problem?

allendehl · 21-08-2007, 12:44 PM

Humm...

Maybe overheating?...Try to find out if the CPU fan is working properly when you get a freeze. Probably it has any problem and works fine sometimes and sometimes not.

cliff99 · 21-08-2007, 05:08 PM

I checked the CPU temp in the bios setup and it never went above 55°C.

cliff99 · 25-08-2007, 07:57 AM

I have tested some more and found out that the following circumvents the problem:
If I make a cold start, wait for the boot menu and then press "reset" everything works fine afterwards.
Very strange.

allendehl · 21-09-2007, 01:12 PM

Hi

I know its a little bit late but...how is the thing doing?..
If it keeps freezing try to clear the CMOS.

GL

Ghostman 1 · 21-09-2007, 01:47 PM

I see you have a dual boot system, Did it do this on a single boot as well?
What boot manage are you using? Most boot problems are from either
video adapter or the ram..

cliff99 · 22-09-2007, 06:06 PM

Hi!

Thanks for your posts, allendehl and Ghostman 1!

The problem still persists. I usually wait in the BIOS setup or in the boot manager (grub) menu for the first freeze, then press the reset button and from that point on everything works fine. I have tried resetting the BIOS to the default values but I haven't tried clearing the CMOS by using the jumper yet. I'll try that.

Concerning single/dual booting: Since the freeze also occurs before the boot manager is started (e.g., when waiting in the BIOS setup), I don't think it's related to that.

I have checked the RAM with memtest86 and it passed flawlessly. And the video adapter? Hm, I would need another video adapter to test that. I'll see if I can get my hands on any non-AGP adapter.

Ghostman 1 · 23-09-2007, 01:49 PM

Can you tell me if it did this before installing linux ? Or has it always done this ?

cliff99 · 23-09-2007, 09:34 PM

The freeze occurs regardless whatever OS/Software I run, even if I enter the BIOS setup before any boot manager is started and wait there. It is definitely a hardware problem.

cliff99 · 02-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allendehl

If it keeps freezing try to clear the CMOS.

After some days absence from home I tried clearing the CMOS as you suggested (using the jumper on the mainboard). I started the system afterwards, entered the BIOS setup to adjust the settings, and after about one minute: freeze. And as usual: Reboot => everything works fine.

Exchanging the graphics adapter did not help either.

21-08-2007, 12:01 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
cliff99 Geek Trainee Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Status: Offline	System freeze only at first (cold) start Hi, I have the following problem with my system: Whenever I turn on my PC after it has been off for some hours it freezes during the first 5 Minutes. This usually happens shortly after log-on (on Win XP and Linux) but also if I wait for 5 Minutes in the boot menu or the bios setup. After the freeze I can restart it and everything works fine, the system is stable for hours. In rare cases I get a second freeze but always only during the first few minutes. I have already made a bios update, checked the RAM with memtest86, and bought a new PSU. Now I am running out of ideas. System specs: - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 + boxed fan - ASUS P5N-E SLI nForce650i - MDT DIMM Kit 2048MB PC2-6400U CL5 (DDR2-800) - PSU: be quiet! Straight Power 600W - Gainward BLISS 8800 GTS 320MB PCIe Any ideas how to fix this problem?

21-09-2007, 01:12 PM	#5 (permalink) Top
allendehl Geek Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 87 Times Helpful: 3 My Mood: Flirty Status: Offline	Hi I know its a little bit late but...how is the thing doing?.. If it keeps freezing try to clear the CMOS. GL __________________ Please read the rules before editing the signature.

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21-08-2007, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink) Top
allendehl Geek Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 87 Times Helpful: 3 My Mood: Flirty Status: Offline	Humm... Maybe overheating?...Try to find out if the CPU fan is working properly when you get a freeze. Probably it has any problem and works fine sometimes and sometimes not.

21-08-2007, 05:08 PM	#3 (permalink) Top
cliff99 Geek Trainee Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Status: Offline	I checked the CPU temp in the bios setup and it never went above 55°C.

25-08-2007, 07:57 AM	#4 (permalink) Top
cliff99 Geek Trainee Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Status: Offline	I have tested some more and found out that the following circumvents the problem: If I make a cold start, wait for the boot menu and then press "reset" everything works fine afterwards. Very strange.

21-09-2007, 01:47 PM	#6 (permalink) Top
Ghostman 1 Ultra Geek Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 736 Times Helpful: 34 My Mood: Mellow Status: Offline	I see you have a dual boot system, Did it do this on a single boot as well? What boot manage are you using? Most boot problems are from either video adapter or the ram..

22-09-2007, 06:06 PM	#7 (permalink) Top
cliff99 Geek Trainee Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Status: Offline	Hi! Thanks for your posts, allendehl and Ghostman 1! The problem still persists. I usually wait in the BIOS setup or in the boot manager (grub) menu for the first freeze, then press the reset button and from that point on everything works fine. I have tried resetting the BIOS to the default values but I haven't tried clearing the CMOS by using the jumper yet. I'll try that. Concerning single/dual booting: Since the freeze also occurs before the boot manager is started (e.g., when waiting in the BIOS setup), I don't think it's related to that. I have checked the RAM with memtest86 and it passed flawlessly. And the video adapter? Hm, I would need another video adapter to test that. I'll see if I can get my hands on any non-AGP adapter.

23-09-2007, 01:49 PM	#8 (permalink) Top
Ghostman 1 Ultra Geek Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 736 Times Helpful: 34 My Mood: Mellow Status: Offline	Can you tell me if it did this before installing linux ? Or has it always done this ?

23-09-2007, 09:34 PM	#9 (permalink) Top
cliff99 Geek Trainee Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Status: Offline	The freeze occurs regardless whatever OS/Software I run, even if I enter the BIOS setup before any boot manager is started and wait there. It is definitely a hardware problem.

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