Yes, AMD right now are in a class of their own, which is between the 9 and GTX series cards. So, Nvidia is going to do something about that, which is, to take a 9800 GTX and put in a 65nm core, end result, 9800 GTX+. Otherwise everything is pretty much the same, and its to be priced around 300, which is above any HD4000 series offering, but Nvidia expects the current 9800 to drop respectively. So.... i don't even know where to begin on all this, Nvidia keeps messing around with all its costumers, releasing things, not telling them what they are really buying. That and anyone with a 9800 GTX or GX2 which would have been a recent purchase is now obsolete with this new unannounced card, at a better price than what they paid. bit-tech.net | Nvidia has 9800 GTX+ : 55nm G92
