what temp should a p4 run at?

eddieace · 09-05-2006, 11:15 PM

i think i may have some cooling probelsm on my CPU it's a p4 2.8 with a standard heat sync and cooler. i've just renewed the heat sync paste, and it seems to have helped a little.

on idle now it's sitting at 50

and when under load it gets to 67.5

is this too hot?

i've just bought a vortex tx cooler for it but haven't yet fitted it yet as the board needs to come out for that so i will be buying a new case as well, probably one a little more ventilated than this one.

the chip isn't overclocked, however i would like to in future once i get this cooling issue under control.

and to add to the overclocking it doesn't seem to have the option in bios to do it! i overclocked my 2.0 p4 before this chip was fitted but now it doesn't seem i have the option to do it anymore. even tho 2.0 chip used to drop itself back to standard after a few days which was wierd!

pelvis_3 · 10-05-2006, 06:24 AM

Those temperatures you mentioned are a little high,
but are still on the safe side. The maximum you CPU can withstand
is 75*Celcius. If this temperature is exceeded, your CPU will automatically throttle it's speed down, sometimes dramatically, until the threshhold is
reached again. If you haven't already done so, i'd recommend giving
your heatsink (and everything else) a good clean.

eddieace · 10-05-2006, 08:21 AM

yeah it's already been cleaned it was running at 72 under load, then when i investigated it there was a blanket of dust over the heat sync, i cleaned it and it only improved by a couple of degree's

so was going to fit the vortex. but then realised the board has to come out so thought balls to it might as well get another case if im gonna do that, its slowly been coming down since

cleaning the heat sync
placed a 12cm case fan in
reapplied heat sync paste

just wondering what the norm was

sabashuali · 10-05-2006, 08:33 AM

Hi

Intel has shipped your CPU with the retail H/S which under *ideal conditions should be more than enough for your CPU.

*No overclocking and in a well ventilated case.

Intel have very specific details as to what they conceder ideal.
You can find it on their site.
Now, unfortunately as soon as as you put a slight pressure on the CPU it tends to overheat and the retail cooling solution might not be sufficiant.

I have a P4 3GHz prescott which came with the recomended cooling solution.
It was not bad at first when I just used it for surfing but it still idled at about 50. With pressure it topped 60.

I have switched to AC Freezer but even now it idles at 40-42.
The problem here is with the case. Not enough fresh air going in and circulating.

Bottom line, unless you get water cooling, changing the CPU cooler is not always the only solution. See if you can better the air flow in your case and I am sure that will nock a few more degrees off.

Good luck.

P.S: Not to panic as pelvis mntioned the Pentium CPU's have very good thermal managment and can look after themselves rather well. However, no point abusing that safety feature....

eddieace · 10-05-2006, 08:46 AM

i have always thought the case was bad for circulating air.

hence my decision to replace the cpu fan when i get another case something with and inlet flow and outlet flow to help it as best as.

my case at the mo is a standard thing that had no case cooling, but i fitted a 120 cm fan to blow air in when i started to notice the cooling issue

Big B · 10-05-2006, 10:30 AM

Good move. Case airflow is very important. The unoffical rule of thumb seems to be if you're hitting 60*C or higher under load (or worse, idle), you need to look at your cooling.

Coolerexpert88 · 02-08-2006, 09:02 AM

Wow then my CPU should be melted!

on idle it stays at 77,5 Celsius!

when gaming i have serious perfomance problems and the games stop i exit and the temp is at 93°!!!!!!!!!I have a serious problem?

eddieace · 02-08-2006, 10:36 AM

ooooo toasty

i'd check to make sure you've got enough (but not too much) cpu paste on your heatsync.

and get a better heatsync and fan. and cooler case maybe.

the beauty of the p4 is when it does get too hot it'll slow itself so not to cause damage, unlike amds

mut · 02-08-2006, 11:27 AM

My CPU currently idles at 50*Celcius and jumps to around 62*Celcius on load.
This is a Sony Vaio computer.
CPU: 2.00GHz - overclocked to 2.26.
I Can overclock to 2.45GHz but the CPU then idles at around 60*Celcius.
I also notices that my CPU didn't even come with a fan!

No point buying one now, I'm building a new system soon.

Coolerexpert88 · 02-08-2006, 04:47 PM

New record temperature for my CPU i submitted a question to intel

,if they will not help me i will sell My pentium and get an Athlon 64

09-05-2006, 11:15 PM	#1 (permalink) Top
eddieace Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 28 Male Posts: 63 Status: Offline My Computer	what temp should a p4 run at? i think i may have some cooling probelsm on my CPU it's a p4 2.8 with a standard heat sync and cooler. i've just renewed the heat sync paste, and it seems to have helped a little. on idle now it's sitting at 50 and when under load it gets to 67.5 is this too hot? i've just bought a vortex tx cooler for it but haven't yet fitted it yet as the board needs to come out for that so i will be buying a new case as well, probably one a little more ventilated than this one. the chip isn't overclocked, however i would like to in future once i get this cooling issue under control. and to add to the overclocking it doesn't seem to have the option in bios to do it! i overclocked my 2.0 p4 before this chip was fitted but now it doesn't seem i have the option to do it anymore. even tho 2.0 chip used to drop itself back to standard after a few days which was wierd!

10-05-2006, 06:24 AM	#2 (permalink) Top
pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 22 Male Posts: 2,336 Times Helpful: 265 My Mood: Happy Status: Offline My Computer	Those temperatures you mentioned are a little high, but are still on the safe side. The maximum you CPU can withstand is 75*Celcius. If this temperature is exceeded, your CPU will automatically throttle it's speed down, sometimes dramatically, until the threshhold is reached again. If you haven't already done so, i'd recommend giving your heatsink (and everything else) a good clean. __________________ Adopt an unanswered thread. \| Who's Online \| vB Code Some people are alive only because it’s illegal to kill them! Support bacteria, it's the only culture some people have!

10-05-2006, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink) Top
sabashuali Ani Ma'amin Join Date: May 2005 Age: 41 Male Posts: 1,451 Times Helpful: 71 My Mood: Grumpy Status: Offline My Computer	Hi Intel has shipped your CPU with the retail H/S which under ideal conditions should be more than enough for your CPU. No overclocking and in a well ventilated case. Intel have very specific details as to what they conceder ideal. You can find it on their site. Now, unfortunately as soon as as you put a slight pressure on the CPU it tends to overheat and the retail cooling solution might not be sufficiant. I have a P4 3GHz prescott which came with the recomended cooling solution. It was not bad at first when I just used it for surfing but it still idled at about 50. With pressure it topped 60. I have switched to AC Freezer but even now it idles at 40-42. The problem here is with the case. Not enough fresh air going in and circulating. Bottom line, unless you get water cooling, changing the CPU cooler is not always the only solution. See if you can better the air flow in your case and I am sure that will nock a few more degrees off. Good luck. P.S: Not to panic as pelvis mntioned the Pentium CPU's have very good thermal managment and can look after themselves rather well. However, no point abusing that safety feature.... __________________ This is not a PC friendly user!!! "...when you find someone you really love, all the rest is just... other stuff." - *Leanne Anika Battersby* Help with digital video? Help My Mini City to grow Hit or Miss

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Big B HWF Godfather Join Date: Dec 2001 Age: 28 Male Posts: 9,636 Times Helpful: 585 My Mood: Devilish Status: Offline My Computer	Good move. Case airflow is very important. The unoffical rule of thumb seems to be if you're hitting 60*C or higher under load (or worse, idle), you need to look at your cooling. __________________ Hardware Forums\|HWF Rules\|My DVD's\|PSU FAQ\|HWF Folding Team\|2CPU

02-08-2006, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink) Top
Coolerexpert88 Geek Trainee Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 20 Male Posts: 24 My Mood: Confused Status: Offline	New record temperature for my CPU i submitted a question to intel,if they will not help me i will sell My pentium and get an Athlon 64

10-05-2006, 08:21 AM	#3 (permalink) Top
eddieace Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 28 Male Posts: 63 Status: Offline My Computer	yeah it's already been cleaned it was running at 72 under load, then when i investigated it there was a blanket of dust over the heat sync, i cleaned it and it only improved by a couple of degree's so was going to fit the vortex. but then realised the board has to come out so thought balls to it might as well get another case if im gonna do that, its slowly been coming down since cleaning the heat sync placed a 12cm case fan in reapplied heat sync paste just wondering what the norm was

10-05-2006, 08:46 AM	#5 (permalink) Top
eddieace Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 28 Male Posts: 63 Status: Offline My Computer	i have always thought the case was bad for circulating air. hence my decision to replace the cpu fan when i get another case something with and inlet flow and outlet flow to help it as best as. my case at the mo is a standard thing that had no case cooling, but i fitted a 120 cm fan to blow air in when i started to notice the cooling issue

02-08-2006, 09:02 AM	#7 (permalink) Top
Coolerexpert88 Geek Trainee Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 20 Male Posts: 24 My Mood: Confused Status: Offline	Wow then my CPU should be melted! on idle it stays at 77,5 Celsius! when gaming i have serious perfomance problems and the games stop i exit and the temp is at 93°!!!!!!!!!I have a serious problem?

02-08-2006, 10:36 AM	#8 (permalink) Top
eddieace Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 28 Male Posts: 63 Status: Offline My Computer	ooooo toasty i'd check to make sure you've got enough (but not too much) cpu paste on your heatsync. and get a better heatsync and fan. and cooler case maybe. the beauty of the p4 is when it does get too hot it'll slow itself so not to cause damage, unlike amds

02-08-2006, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink) Top
mut Big Geek Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 19 Male Posts: 166 Times Helpful: 3 My Mood: Bashful Status: Offline My Computer	My CPU currently idles at 50Celcius and jumps to around 62Celcius on load. This is a Sony Vaio computer. CPU: 2.00GHz - overclocked to 2.26. I Can overclock to 2.45GHz but the CPU then idles at around 60*Celcius. I also notices that my CPU didn't even come with a fan! No point buying one now, I'm building a new system soon.

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