thank you all, i've learnt so because of you guys, and i've got loadsa bookmarks Big Hug & a thank you all Edit: but i also know there's so much i don't know
please stop trying to blind me with science. yes, i've being using *nix for a couple of years, but, i haven't even scratched the surface of *nix & i realise that it may be due to my brain damage or i may just be thick, i don't know which, & without wiki & google i wouldn't know anything (except what i've learnt the hard way, like testing how many changes can be made to a HDD (master, slave, CS) before a jumpers knacked) BTW: average was about 45 changes, what an exiting week that was