Well i just went out and got a Toshiba VTW2186 TV for those of you who do not know what it is, or cannot be bothered to search: it's a: Toshiba 21" Flat Screen with built in stero sound, DVD and VCR all in one Here's the spec: 51cm Visible Screen Size, Face Flat, NICAM Digital Stereo, Twin Tuner, Auto Set-up , 80 channels, Text with Fastext , NTSC Video Playback, Off Timer, 4-head NICAM , Long play (LP), Advanced Auto Set-up , Auto Clock Checking, Icon On-screen Display (OSD), NTSC Playback on PAL TV, Auto Head Cleaner, Index Search, Frame advance, Plays DVD- CD- VCD- CD-R- CD-RW- MP3 , Dynamic range 90dB, Favourite running order, Slow motion, Variable Zoom, Enhanced front panel operation, SCART socket, Front AV, Digital Co-axial Terminal, Dolby Digital/DTS audio output, VideoPlus, Programme Delivery Control (PDC), On-screen Programming, 6 Event Timer, One-touch Record. Here's a picture: Retail Price: £389-£470 (Including Delivery) and Vat I brought it for: (Brand New) £70 :good: (legally ) Having Contacts does help sometimes