Setting jumpers on hardrives and cd-drives..

Discussion in 'Storage Devices' started by swirly, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. swirly

    swirly Geek Trainee

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    I don't know where my jumpers go, I just got a new motherboard and I need to put XP in so it will work and it cannot read it and the harddrives ar e not being recognized.. Any suggestions???
     
  2. Big B

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    Read the manual first thing. Second, some hard drives absolutely do not like to be slave. Others, like Western Digital's have a (as my dad would put it) "Gotcha!" jumper setting for single drives.
     
  3. Anti-Trend

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    On IDE devices, there are two positions on each IDE chain -- Master, and Slave. The master position is the one on the opposite end of the cable from the motherboard, and the slave is in the middle. A good rule of thumb is to keep HDDs on their own chain, seperate from other devices. If you must share an IDE channel, never share an IDE channel between a HDD and an optical drive. Try and keep them seperate if possible. Also, use 80-conductor IDE cables for HDDs.
     
  4. swirly

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    Alright I dont think I am going to mess with this stuff because I am a noob lol.. My mom said I can get a technician to wip it up for me and finally get my new system running.. Hey just out of curiosity, how do you think this system is for basic games like CS:S, HL2, Doom3 .. etc..

    Abit AV8 Motherboard
    Amd Athlon 64 3400+
    Geforce 6600GT
    2GB Ram (333MHZ)
    80 GB & 200 GB HDD's
    500 Watt Logisys PSU

    Is that a decent system?? No1 ever gave me any input..
     
  5. Anti-Trend

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    Everything looks very good except for the PSU... the wattage is high enough, but Logisys PSU's have very low amperage, and can damage your hardware. I recommend Enermax or Antec, at least 400watt (I'd go for at least 500watt, personally). If you don't have the money for one of those, Thermaltake makes a pretty good PSU for quite a bit cheaper. I think Big B would also plug Sparkle or Fortron PSUs.
     
  6. swirly

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    Yes I know my psu sucks... what do you mean it can damage?? Does this mean I should not turn it on??? I'm scared now.. lol.. anyways.. Umm I have an Aspire 500 Watt now and I am getting a new one maybe by next week because the fans blew out the first time I used it.. But I think it is very strong.. Tell me if you think this one is good or a lot better than the one I have now.....

    http://xoxide.com/500waassuuvr.html

    "This extremely powerful power supply is one of the most eye catching on the market. The power supply is designed with a translucent top and serveral colored interior parts. The power supply also features 2 UV LED Blue Fans that light up when powered on. The entire power supply is also tricked out with UV reative sleeving and parts, even the connectors! This is by far one of the nicest and most powerful power supplys you can fit your case with."
     
  7. Anti-Trend

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    No, that PSU is more for looks than for power. It's amps are almost as low as the Logisys! I'm sticking with my original recommendations (Enermax, Antec, Thermaltake). By the way, Newegg.com has much better prices and selection than xoxide.com.
     
  8. swirly

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    Well this sucks, I have no money, no job, nothing.. I guess my pc will die on me soon then =(.......
     
  9. Anti-Trend

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    You may experience system instability, and eventually fry the motherboard (and everything connected to it). Not a good prospect. On the other hand, you can get a 420watt Thermaltake PSU from Newegg.com for something like $40. It has much higher amps than both PSUs you listed, and two ball-bearing fans. A great PSU for the money. I really like Enermax, but they are very costly, so Thermaltake is a good compromise between performance and cost.
     
  10. swirly

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    That sucks badly I just bought that Logisys PSU for 46 bucks I could have got that one.... What is a high number of ampage? Just wondering..
     
  11. Anti-Trend

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    Amperage is electron density, as far as I understand it. Proper amounts of amperage is what's called "clean power", because it's a steady & even stream of power. Even if a PSU has the wattage your hardware requires, it may not have the amperage necessary to actually provide the full amount of power (dirty power). So in that case the wattage is meaningless. It's said that an Antec 350watt PSU is better than a 600watt generic PSU. The reason for this is amperage.
     
  12. swirly

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    Yes I know that.. But what is considered a high number of amperage???
    I read many reviews on that Aspire 500 watt PSU and I heard it is very strong..
     
  13. Anti-Trend

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    It depends on the type/quanity of hardware in your system. But the important rails are +3.3v (RAM, CPU, Motherboard, PCI), +5v (AGP, HDD, CDROM, Fans), and +12v(Fans, AGP, HDD, CDROM, motherboard).

    I like to see at least 30A for the +3.3v, 18A for the +12v and 40 amps for the +5v. The +5vSB is also important, and a good value for that is at least 2.0 amps.

    P.S. - I just found a model of Aspire 500watt PSU that has pretty high rails! Very low in the negative range, but that's much less important than the positive. Perhaps that's the PSU you ordered?
     
  14. swirly

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    POST the link please lol!!!!!

    If you have the link post it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Anti-Trend

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    10 amps lower than I like for the +5v channel (one of the most critical), but here it is!
     
  16. Addis

    Addis The King

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    Trust me you don't want to be running a generic PSU for long. Mine died on me within 6 months.
     
  17. swirly

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    YEP That is the one.. Is it good?? Only mine is in black =)!!

    Well I mean, it is strong enough for my pc... I do not need a SUPER DUPER one =)..
     
  18. swirly

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    The PSU I am buying is not generic is it??
     
  19. Addis

    Addis The King

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    No not really generic, just a crap brand. Mine was Codegen 400W I got with my case.
     
  20. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    I got an antec 450w free with my case because the man at the fair couldn't find the rubbishy one that was supposed to come with it...i was pleased.
     

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