Need advice on building a pc..seeing how dell ripped me off

Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by tsh, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. tsh

    tsh Geek Trainee

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    If you read my past topic http://www.hardwareforums.com/haven-t-had-my-computer-working-87-days-need-advice-8359/

    Can see I don’t like dell computers tech support... and seems that I wasted tons of money on it...

    Anyways I need a new computer... don’t know anything on what to buy or how to build a computer... I am hopping its simple to do

    I’m taking dell to small claims to sue if nothing on friday comes... and hopping I will at least get a refund on my money and possibly more... so my price range isn’t really limited but I don’t wont an over kill pc (stuff that isnt really neded)

    Were should I buy and what should I buy? I always had pre built pc so I wouldn’t know were to start... I use my computer for my business in real-estate and games like FEAR black white 2 etc etc... Resolution of 1200 and everything high


    I just bought an X-Fi sound card... X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS

    I just could not pass up on the price... it was only 150$ so I bought it... I’m not touching my dell seeing how everyone on other forums told me not to if I'm going to small claims... I now see why

    So I need everything... Except sound card

    Any advice on what to buy and how to build the computer would be appreciated
     
  2. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    One question -
    If your broken PC served you well, would you want similar specifications or higher specs?
     
  3. Matt555

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    Yeah give us a budget and what you want to be doing with it and it will help us plan accordingly
    :good:
     
  4. tsh

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    Well I posted what I wont to do with it above...

    I dont like to make a budget because then you would shot for that... i dont have a price range.. just not (over kill)



    "One question -
    If your broken PC served you well, would you want similar specifications or higher specs?"



    higher .. it worked well for every thing but FEAR really killed it...


    I dont wont to give a price range but I guess from 3 to 4 thousand..
     
  5. Matt555

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    in USD$?
    Damn you're going to have one sweet system, F.E.A.R does run very slowly on even some high end computers, it makes systems cry and tremble...
    Okay for $3000-$4000 you can get:
    Case: Personal choice really, but I like Antec cases, this one especially.
    Motherboard: DFI LanParty nF4
    CPU: AMD64 X2 4800+ (although this is their top of the line model and a lesser model will still give outstanding performance)
    Graphics: 2 x XFX 7800GTX (SLI'd)
    HDD: 2 x WD Raptop 10K RPM SATA 74GB (RAID 0 for little extra speed if you want it)
    Optical Drive(s): PLEXTOR Black IDE DVD Burner Model
    PSU: PC Power & Cooling TURBO-COOL 850 SSI T85SSI 850W Power Supply
    Monitor: You can't beat a CRT for gaming, so here's a choice of an LCD or a CRT monitor:
    CRT: SAMSUNG 990DF Black 19" CRT Monitor
    LCD: LG L1781Q Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor
    Cables and other things will be needed, with retail stuff you usually get them, you may want extra cooling as well.
    Total without cables and extra cooling with CRT= $3312.97
    Total without cables and extra cooling with LCD= $3562.97
    You may want an operating system as well, damn with that system you'll have serious bragging rights...
    That's a very high end system, some would call it overkill but if you're willing to spend the money then why not? That system will last for quite a while...
    That's just my idea on a system for that price range, other people may have different ideas, we'll find you the right system, don't worry.
     
  6. tsh

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    "RAID 0 for little extra speed if you want it"


    In speed... as in what? how is it any better and what improvments do you get from Raid 0?


    I never had 2 hard drives but I have heard of this
     
  7. Matt555

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  8. tsh

    tsh Geek Trainee

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    It’s an increase in what exactly? Still do not understand


    What would I see an increase in?
     
  9. Matt555

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    Speed as part of the file can be saved on one hard drive when another part is saved on the other hard drive...
     
  10. Girtho961

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  11. Matt555

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    Yeah that's a great option, the DFI LAN Party has many tweaking options and I've heard if you want to do lots of altering then thats the board, but for stable SLI capability then those boards would be a better option, nice one Girtho961!
    :good:
     
  12. tsh

    tsh Geek Trainee

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    "Speed as part of the file can be saved on one hard drive when another part is saved on the other hard drive..."



    Ok i understand that... what I dont understand is what does this give me as a gain? games?


    Or is it just really a waste and not needed?
     
  13. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    Normally when you read and write data on a HDD, you are reading and writing from one drive. With a RAID-0, you are reading and writing the data spread evenly over two drives simultaneously, as if it was a single big, fast drive. The advantages of this are doubled speed and storage capacity over a single drive. The drawbacks are that you must buy two (preferably identical) HDDs, and that if one drive fails you lose all of your data (just as if it was literally one big drive). Make sense?

    -AT
     
  14. freedomhays

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  15. Matt555

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    I'm not sure what you mean by this, what are you trying to say? "get this PC?" "what do you think of this PC?"
    Be more specific or there is no real point in your post
     
  16. freedomhays

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    Well, I thought it was self explanatory, most of the work is done on this one.
    Nice overclocker.... Buy this and it leaves you options to finish, and also it would cost a bit to buy these parts new.........
     
  17. Matt555

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    Yeah but if tsh is willing to spend like $3000-$4000 USD then why not build a brand new system with the best parts available, and NOT INTEL...why settle for second best when you can have such a killer system...
    that thing on ebay, not worth it if you want to spend the money and build your own kick ass computer tsh...
     
  18. Matt555

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    Also look at that motherboard, its got conntectors for front panel and extras etc in between PCI slots, that must be awkward...
     
  19. freedomhays

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    Oh, i did not know he was going to spend that much.
    in any case this still would be nice for first time builder/overclocker.
     
  20. Matt555

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    yeah it would be, just not suitable for this situation
     

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