Amd 2600=2000???

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by kid halo, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. kid halo

    kid halo Geek Trainee

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    I just go a MoBo and CPU combo @ Fry's that included a 2600+ Barton w/ a Shuttle AN35 Ultra. Whenever I start the comp., it says AMD 2000. WTF. I can't figure out how to change the FSB in the BIOS. Is this board a POS oc'er- b/c if it is I have a 30 day return policy anyways and I'll just get an Abit. Reccomendations? I have PC4000 Kingston HyperX RAM(YAY OVERKILL!) and a 420W PSU and 7 fans in a Scorpio 868W case. Please help.
     
  2. harrack52

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    My guess is that the FSB is at 133 instead of 166. Look in the manual and it should be written.

    You will either have to change the FSB in the BIOS or via dipswitches or jumpers on the board itself.

    What model from Abit are you talking about, the NF7 ? If so, take it, you won't be disappointed.
     
  3. Big B

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    I read a review, and that board seems to OC pretty well. If you want more features, yeah, the Abit is probably the way you wanna go, but unless you're a die-hard overclocker, you should be fine with the Shuttle board.
     
  4. kid halo

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    Praise the lord! The first OK purchase I've ever made with the Shuttle! Ah. what a fine day it is. How is it possible to check myt jumper settings? Those are those thich cords that come with the motherboard right that connect from the drives the MoBo. Also, I gave you guys the wrong model number for the Shuttle- it's supposed to be the AN35N400 .
    And finally, is the FSB frequency the thing that changes the FSB? B/c FSB frequency only lets me go up 250MHz! I know this board supports every FSB up to 400, so I'm not quite sure how to pinpoint the problem.

    As for the Abit, I was thinking of ASUS, and the model would be the A7N8X Deluxe, but I've decided to stick with the Shuttle. Will I still get up to 3200+ on my 2600+ Barton like you did, harrack52?
     
  5. harrack52

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    don't get the Asus, imo.

    When you hear 400mhz of FSB. In reality, it's 200*2, so your bus frequency should be set at 166.

    As for my oc, I have a Barton 2500+ and I canT' say how good yours is gonna' oc because it's different for everyone.

    I would add that my cpu is much faster than a 3200+.
     
  6. kid halo

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    Yay setting it to 166 from 133 worked! BTW, if your cpu is a lot faster than 3200+, why don't you guess and say 35+ or something. Also, how do I know if the bridge is connected or not on mine.

    Oh shoot, before I overclock I'll hvae to get a new HSF for the cpu. After Christmas heheh.
     
  7. Big B

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    He's going by the original performance rating to help ID the CPU. It's easier to deal with than figuring out the stepping code on the CPU.
     
  8. kid halo

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    What does that mean in English? The stepping code- for overclocking right? Hmm... Oh yeah my friend has a P4 2.6C and I have a 2600+ Barton. He got like a few points more than me on PCMark02. Me=5581,him=6684 or so. It shall be interesting to see the overclocking capabilities of the 2600+...
     
  9. harrack52

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    Well I don't know exactly what the PR rating would be. Mine is recognized as a 3000+ because the multiplir is set at 10.5 whereas the 3200+ is set at 11.

    The stepping is the name of the model followed by the year and the week the cpu was manufactured.

    Mine is AQZEA 0321 which means it was manufactured in the 21st week of 2003.
    Some people have found out that certain steppings had more chances to be successful in ocing than others. therE's no guarantee though.

    yours is likely locked, the most recent ones all are.
     
  10. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    Okay, I can understand why this is confusing you. The base FSB we deal with is 100MHz, 133MHz or 166MHz...in most cases. Turn that over to DDR and they become 200MHz, 266MHz, and 333MHz.

    That 250MHz is based on the base FSB frequency. If you turn it to DDR, it doubles and becomes 500MHz. What this means is that you need only hit 200MHz to get the 400MHz.
     
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  11. kid halo

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    Now I get it hehe. How do I find the number on my CPU? Would it be on the actual chip?
     
  12. Big B

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    Yup. So if you want to see it, you'll have to remove the heatsink...and maybe clean off the core (well, that's advised anytime you reinstall the heatsink).
     
  13. Torito

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    kid halo I dont understand something you said you put pc4000
    but the motherboard specifies that it can use DDR memory up to 400 mhz and pc4000 runs at 500 mhz pc3200 is the one that runs at 400 mhz wouldnt this cause some compatibility issue.I may be wrong because Im new to DDR memory but I woul like to know because I plan to build a similar system but I will be using the Abit NF7-S wich is very similar to your board.
     
  14. Big B

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    No. You can always put in RAM capable of higher speeds in your system. Now, there are options to run the memory slower or faster than the CPU's FSB, and that tends to mess with performance, even if the RAM speed is set higher. I'm not sure if it affects the nForce 3, but I do know it was an issue when the original nForce chipset came out. If you're not overclocking, there's no need to buy anything faster than PC3200 as there will not be any more Socket A CPU's that have anything higher than a 400MHz FSB (pre-overclocking of course).
     

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