comp. froze on 3dmark03 cpu test 2, please help

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  1. xslynux

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    hi... i was just wondering what causing my comp. to freeze everytime i run 3dmark03 (build 340) while its on cpu test 2, all my drivers are updated including via hypirion 4in1, it doesnt used to do this back when i had my fx5200, well thx in advance.

    my specs:
    p4 2.4
    soyo p4vtp mobo
    gigabyte 9200se 128mb
    640mb ram
     
  2. Anti-Trend

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    What brand & wattage is your PSU? The CPU tests pull juice like crazy; you may be overloading an underpowered power supply.
     
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    its codegen 350watts. also i have five cooling fans including the cpu and psu
     
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    That may not be your whole problem right there, but I'd bet that it's at least part of it. I had the same problem with my wife's PC. I modded her case to add a 120mm fan, and her system was acting flaky (just like you're describing). She had an Antec 350watt PSU. I upgraded it to an Enermax 430watt, and it's been a rock ever since.

    Other possible explanations for your problem may include a corrupted file in 3DMark, corrupted file in DirectX, or heat-related failure.
     
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    yeah i think my cpu is over heating... but what do i know., cause this is the first box i ever built. anyways sisoft sandra and mbm is showing cpu 75c but it didnt bother me cause my mobo sensor is on 45c and i never had any problem playing 3d games. plus would'nt my cpu burn out on 75c for 2 weeks strait? well thanks for ur reply's and keep em coming :good:
     
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    yeah I doubt it was 75C.

    when you say 45C, is it the idle temp or the under load temp ?

    If it's the idle temp then I also vote for the overheating.
     
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    45c idle and 47 underload and my fan speed is 2700 to 2900rpm do i need to buy a better fan or should i just replace the stock heat sink?
     
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    For now, just take off the heatsink, clean everything up and reapply a thin layer of thermal paste on the core (arctic silver/céramique if possible) and reseat the heatsink and make sure it is well fixed, then re-run the tests.
     
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    Harrack52 is right, dust is a heat insulator. Also, your fan speeds may be part of the problem, but it really depends on the diameter of the fan itself. For instance, an 80mm fan running at 2900RPMs isn't that slow, but a 60mm fan at the same RPMs is horribly slow. Are you using a stock Intel heatsync? If so, you might consider picking up a 3rd party cooler to replace it. I like Thermaltake a lot for their good quality and suprisingly cheap prices.
     
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    i just installed a dynatron copper heatsink and the cpu temp went down to 44c (idle) which is not that big of a difference but i think the problem is fixed cause i ran 3dmark03 for 3X and it seems pretty stable. THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS :good:
     
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    Our pleasure. Glad everything worked out. :)
     
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    Not the only one with that problem:

    I also have a soyo P4VTP board, P4 Northwood 3.0ghz, 512m pc3200 ddr ram, with the whole thing running at 800mhz FSB and I was getting the exact same temperature readings as the original poster. 44C on the motherboard when booting (in the bios temperature reading), and sandra reports 75C on processor 1, and 22C on processor 2. Of course there aren't actually 2 processors -- it's hyperthreaded. I have occasional instability, which makes me believe that the heat is getting to my machine. But only occasionally, and only when reeally pushing hte machine in 3d games. Windows itself runs fine.

    I wonder if perhaps the hyperthreading is the cause of the heat? I migrated my disks from my old machine, running XP pro. My understanding (now, and I'd love to be corrected) is that you should install XP again if you have a multiple processor (or hyperthreaded) machine, because XP can install a multiple processor support. Otherwise you're spinning cycles for nothing. Anyone know anything about this?

    I am dubious about the 75C reading from the mobo sensor too, because the heat sink is cool to the touch. Sandra also warns that the cooling system thermal resistance is 0.64C/W, which is too high. I removed the wax that came with the boxed processor on the heatsink, and put in some arctic silver on the CPU, as per the instructions on the artic silver site. I lost 1 degree for all that, bios now idles at 43C. I do however notice that the chipset heatsink is VERY hot. So perhaps thats the sensor that is giving me these crazy numbers? You'd think though that the bios that came with the MOBO would have the right sensor for the temperature. Is there an easy way to externally check the temperature a processor is running at?

    Soyo apparently does not allow hyperthreading to be disabled in the most recent version of the bios, I've got an email into their tech support. I'll report back what I hear from them.

    Thanks all,

    Dan
     
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    I heard back from Soyo

    The Temp being read by Sandra is the Ondie CPU Temp. The maximum Ondie Temp
    for your CPU is 80C, so 74C is acceptable but its a little high.

    You cannot disable Hyperthreading in the P4 CPU.

    Thank You! Have a Nice Day!
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    Regards,
    SOYO Technical Support Team
    SOYO Computer Inc.

    Dan
     

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