Celeron Vs Pentium

Discussion in 'CPU, Motherboards and Memory' started by megamaced, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. megamaced

    megamaced Geek Geek Geek!

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    I am 99.9% sure I know the answer to this already, but here goes.

    I currently have a Celeron 2.8GHz, 128KB cache and 400MHz bus. Would upgrading to a Pentium 4 2.4GHz, 512KB cache and 533MHz bus be a worthwhile upgrade?
     
  2. Impotence

    Impotence May the source be with u!

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    4x the cache and a higher FSB, sounds good to me.... i would find some benchmarks first tho!
     
  3. Big B

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    For just websurfing and office apps, no. Gaming, folding, compiling, video editing, etc...that will net you actual benefits.
     
  4. megamaced

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    Would the 400MHz difference between clock speeds be noticeable? I suppose the larger cache and bus of the Pentium 4 would make up for it? It would do more work per clock?

    The reason I am considering it is for VMware. My computer can't handle running two Linux distributions at the same time
     
  5. izzy007

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    the p4 is definitely the way to go. its got much better multitasking and handling than the celeron and is just better
     
  6. Big B

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    Unless it's a dual-core version, I'd say no.
     
  7. megamaced

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    W00t! Just bought a Pentium 4 2.8GHz, 533FSB 512KB Cache for £20 :)

    Do you think i'd be able to use the stock heatsink + cooler that came with my eMachines (for a Celeron 2.8GHz)? I am worried about possible overheating.
     
  8. izzy007

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    Probably not. coz the p4's take out a lot more heat than the celeron and emachines wud not spend more money on a cooler so that the person can upgrade in the future. ready built computer only have cost efficient hardware
     
  9. mut

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    Just buy a stock P4 cooler from ebay. There's loads of them on there for low prices.
     
  10. Exfoliate

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    Wow, good find man, 2.8 isn't too shabby, a 3.0 is often what's used for recommended specs on demanding games.
     
  11. zeus

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    Yeah, I agree with mut. A stock P4 one from ebay would be fine. Its a really good HSF and more than adequate for a northwood P4. I got a 25% overclock with mine and the temp barely increased. I ended up with a £20 coolermaster one which does work better but in hindsight was a unnessacary purchase.

    I take it the emachines ones isnt a stock P4? The hsf I got with a celly emachine had the intel hsf.
     
  12. Big B

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    Depends on the core. A Northwood core 2.4 will probably do 3-3.2GHz pretty easy. I'm not sure about the Prescott's OC's.
     
  13. megamaced

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    I think it's a Northwood because its quite old and runs on a Socket 478. Theres no HT or anything like that. The specifics can be found here

    Not sure if my eMachines computer has a stock heatsink+fan but I'd assume so. It's pretty huge though and looks up to the task of cooling the P4. Better safe then sorry though so I'll probs buy something a bit better.

    I won't be able to do any overclocking because eMachines have locked the BIOS FSB multipliers and clock speed :(

    What do they mean by 'Tray processors'? And what are 'VIDS'?!
     
  14. Big B

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    VID=Voltage IDentification. It's a fancy way of saying stock voltage. You may also hear the term vCore/Vcore used, which is another name for the same thing.
    I believe the tray processors are a way of purchasing CPU's in bulk...like Dell or HP might do. These would be considered OEM and don't come with a heatsink/fan unit.

    Actually, early Prescotts were S478, but really were never intended to be run on that platform. Without actually getting into an OS, I'm having a helluva time determining if it's a NW or not. Intel's sSpec finder doesn't seem to want to pull up a record of what core it used. However, I'm inclined to agree, that it is probably Northwood due to the cache size.
     
  15. zeus

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    It was cache size which made me come to that conclusion. They only made one P4 prescott with a 512kb cache and it was a 2.26ghz. All the other Prescott P4s were 1mb L2 cache.

    The prescotts with less than 1mb L2 cache were all celerons.
     
  16. megamaced

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    Thanks for the info guys.

    I am going to take my chances and use my existing heatsink+fan. If my processor burns then you have my permission to say '0wn3d'! :chk:
     
  17. Big B

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    You just need to provide a good pick of the smoldering CPU so we can Photoshop/GiMP '0wn3d!' on it
     
  18. megamaced

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    haha, will do

    Anyways, I've installed it and so far it's not burnt alive... The heatsink and fan combo are manufactured by AVC, who i've never heard of before. I've checked their website and they seem reputable. Have you come across AVC before? Please don't tell me they are the Q-Tec for PSUs :D

    I haven't noticed much of a performance boost whilst booting the computer or running day to day tasks. Programs open a little faster and the system is a little snappier in general. I only really noticed the difference when I fired up 2 virtual machines at the same time :D The P4 easily outperforms my old Celly there.
     
  19. sabashuali

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    [ot]
    No can do.....
    I remember a small clip circulating, where they showed what happened to an AMD and Pentium CPUs when run without cooling.
    AMD literaly burst out while the Pentium just froze and refused to play.
    It stayed, however, in perfect condition.....
    [/ot]
     
  20. Big B

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    Oh, I see you remember that experiment Tom's Hardware did years back.
     

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