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Yeah, but I'll just get the 2500+ anyways because I'm a wussy and have $364 to get a PSU, MoBo, CPU, and RAM-$90 550Watt Antec TRue PSU, $94 Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL, $90 AMD 2500+ Barton, and $90 Kingston 2x256MB Value RAM PC3200:)

Why would I want that when I can OC the 2500+ to better speeds? I see what you mean though because the new Athlob 64s will be dominating soon and to not spend a ton on a processor?

Welp...too late now...and anyways it was an ATi model, not a Sapphire or powercolor, and I doubt to the utmost that it had those forsaken Samsung 3.3ns memory chips on it, as ATI is smart enough to hunt down people who mod their cards, as they discontinued to 9500 series, and I wouldn't be...

I ain't bein' a crybaby 'bout it:eek: and I know I'll get sweet performance w/ the 2500+ anyways. I was j/w if the 2600+ didn't come w/ multipliers locked(you don't have to answer that:rolleyes: )...

Noice!

So what;s the better value-surround sound and audigy 2 card or headphones-do i need the audigy 2 here?

I heard that buying headphones(a good quality pair) is a really good option for playing FPSs b/c you can hear people coming better. Would I have to buy a sound card to get good quality sound? Or is it better to get like a logitech 5.1 surround sound with an Audigy 2?

The 5600FX Ultra is on sale for Fry's very often for $98.96 but it still sux;)

Today there was a sale @ Fry's for a Radeon 9800 Non-Pro that came w/ a voucher for HL2 via download for $199.99! They're probably sold out now though. I would've gotten this, but I was already planning on getting the PRO version b/c of the mods you can do to it and it is an extremely fast card.

Any reccomendations for an overclockable CPU? b/c I've now been informed that you can't o/c the 2500+.

Oh boy, now I need to spend $30 on a heatsink, $60 on fans(they will last forever though right?)...I't's just that everyone is saying to hold onto your cash and get the Athlon64 when the price drops. B/c isn't there supposed to be a 64-bit op. sys. coming out for Windows? I have learned that new...

erm...so I can't overclock it...:stupid:

First of all, I was talking about the cpu's heatsink, but now I know what to do when I go to volt mod my vid. card! Sorry about not starting new threads. Whenever I start one, I just keep on blabbing until it's like 3 pages long :confused: But wait! One last question for harrack32...

I think if I'm unhappy with the "sick performance" of my card once the games start to use more technologies in like 6 or 7 months, then I'll overclock it. Also, how do you remove the heatsink once it's glued on? Jeez, do you need like a bunsen burner to melt the thermal paste off? BTW, I'm...

You know the 2500+ Barton you guys reccomended me? Once I glue the heatsink on, can I replace it with the $30 copper one for overclocking later?

And I think I'll overclock my old GeForce FX 5200 just for the heck of it. And my GeForce 2 MX 400. Any tips on OCing? Ty.

Yea, it sounds like an awesome card as it is. Plus with the volt mod, someone got it to 475/800!

Like how much do you think the R420 will cost? I'm getting kinda hasty to upgrade. What would you do? Oh, and I heard this one guy said that you can mod a 9800SE(Power Color only) to get speeds nearly as good as the 9800PRO. However, a quick search on Yahoo did nothing. Also, there is a...

I was wondering if I should hold off on the 9800Pro(BestBuy-$299.99) and wait for the R420 which will be 2x the speed of the 9800Pro?

Sweet! And the Radeon 9800 Pro is on sale @ BestBuy for $299.99!