Hello, whenever I go into my BIOS to change some hardware settings, the BIOS seems to lag, when I say lag, I meen doesn't run fast at all, to load the welcome BIOS screen you see it start to fill in all the parts, and the BIOS displays "Please Wait..." When I select other options on the BIOS, it lags to load that page, lags to navigate thru the BIOS. This hasn't happened to the BIOS at all, I did make some recent changes to the BIOS, one I reset the CMOS two I added a new Video Card AGP Radeon 9800 SE 128MB, im not sure if the video card would be causing the problem either, after all Windows XP runs smooth and fine, games I play on the system works great. It just appears to be the BIOS that is really slow. Thanks for the help everyone! Technical Notes: Motherboard: ASUS P4P800 SE Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800SE 128 MB RAM: 1GB
I found these Slow Bios for P4C800-E Deluxe [Archive] - Tech Support Forum Bios lag after Flashing... [Archive] - techPowerUp! Forums The problem seems to be related to an overclocked card. I know some of these 9800SEs overclocked well and/or modded to 9800 pros. The problem seems to be related to the video memory timings. What I would do is make sure your card is not overclocked. Download an overclocking tool which permits you to change the memory timings of your video card. Basically, what you need to do is to revert back to the factory settings. That includes clock/memory speed, timings, etc. ATI Tray Tools is good ocing tool, it's also a good cp/ccc replacement.
Thanks so much, I don't know the history of the video card, since I purchased the card itself off ebay.ca That really makes me angry that they over clocked the video card without telling me, they could have atleast put something in the buying guide that it was overclocked, thanks so much though! I will do what you suggested thanks
Well at this point we don't know for sure, but ruling this out is the first step imo. I should probably mention that you shouldn't play with memory timings if you don't know what the settings mean. The clock/memory speed on the 9800 se can vary a bit, although if it's anything like 337/378 or anything in that range, you should lower both the core and the mem and see if it changes anything. One thing's for sure though is that it only has 4 rendering pipelines, as opposed to 8 for the pro. For Ati Tray Tools, right-click on the icon in your system tray (left of the clock), go to Hardware/System Information, "Active Rendering Pipelines" is what you're looking for. The clock/mem can be seen in the "Overclocking settings" under the same menu.
Here is a simple text file it produced of the cards information and memory timings I believe Code: Display adapter RADEON 9800 SE AGP (0x4148) Core Name R350 SubVendor ATI (1002) SubDevice 0002 BUS 1 Device 0 Function 0 Base Address 0 E8000008 Base Address 1 0000C001 Base Address 2 FE9F0000 Base Address 3 00000000 Bus Type AGP Current AGP Speed 8x SMARTGART Installed Yes Driver Version 06.8 Release Version 8.282-060802a-035722C-ATI QuadBuffer Stereo Support No Catalyst Registry Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{93FE2911-3A0B-494F-A23A-E2B92BA52320}\0000 ______________________________ Clock Information BIOS VPU 324.00 Current VPU 324.00 BIOS MEM 290.00 Current MEM 290.25 ______________________________ Radeon PCI configuration space 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 00 02 10 48 41 87 01 B0 02 00 00 00 03 04 FF 80 00 10 08 00 00 E8 01 C0 00 00 00 00 9F FE 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 02 00 30 00 00 9C FE 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 01 08 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 02 00 50 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 30 00 1B 02 00 FF 60 12 43 00 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ______________________________ Hardware Information Installed memory 128 Mb Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Width 256 bit Active Rendering Pipelines 4 ______________________________ ASIC details Family 52 Emulated Revision 2 Gfx Engine ID 3 ______________________________ Radeon Registers RADEON_BIOS_0_SCRATCH 00000004 RADEON_BIOS_1_SCRATCH 0100C000 RADEON_X_MPLL_REF_FB_DIV 00302B04 RADEON_XCLK_CNTL 00DF8002 RADEON_MCLK_CNTL AA021212 GB_TILE_CONFIG 00010011 MC_TIMING_CNTL 1A291922 MC_SDRAM_MODE_REG 30420042 ______________________________ Video BIOS Information Version 008.004.008.018 Part Number 113-A07513-100 Date 2003/03/18 14:59 Vram Type DDR SGRAM / SDRAM ______________________________ Controller Configurations Controller 0 Active Connections: -Monitor (CRT1) (0) 1024x768x70 Controller 1 Active Connections: No Active Connections ______________________________ Displays supported by adapter 0 (1) Monitor (CRT1) 1 (2) Second Monitor (CRT2) 2 (4) Component Video Output 3 (8) TV 4 (16) Digital Flat Panel ______________________________ EnumDisplays Display Type 0, Extended Type 1 , Max Resolution 1920x1080 Display Type 0, Extended Type 2 , Max Resolution 1600x1200 Display Type 4, Extended Type 0 , Max Resolution 720x480 Display Type 1, Extended Type 7 , Max Resolution 1024x768 Display Type 3, Extended Type 1 , Max Resolution 2048x1536 I set everything to default using ATI Tray tool, though im still experiencing a laging BIOS
Your BIOS seems to be from a Built By Ati 9800 non pro 128mb with Infineon memory. The clocks are consistant with a 9800 non pro. Is your card ATI branded or is it from a third-party manufacturer (Sapphire, Abit, etc) ? We'll need to find out what card you have exactly. You will have to look at the card itself and report back with the part number (p/n) (top of the card and/or sticker) and what kind of memory you have (on the memory chips are written the brand and model number, just write everything down). After that, we can find the proper BIOS for your card, flash it and test it.
Okay, I looked at the card, and this is what I found on the top corner of the video card Its an ATI Make. Not from a 3rd party company, well atleast from my observations. The GPU Cooling fan has an ATI Logo on it, The PN Number I found was this PN: 109-A07500-00 Thanks again! ps Sorry I couldn't make out the golden numbers on the black Memory chips,
The part number indicates that it is not a BBA. This part number is used on 9800 PROs, but also with powercolor 9800SEs. However I wasn't able to find a bios for a powercolor 9800 se with your part number. If you want to, you can try a bios for a BBA 9800 non pro 128mb w/infineon memory (you should really try and decipher the writing on your memory chips, don't forget to look at the back of the card too). That bios has the same part number as your current bios. It might even be the exact same actually. techPowerUp! :: ATI Bios Collection I can't link you directly to it, but it's the first 9800 non pro 128mb in the ATI section. At this point there isn't much more I can do I'm affraid. Two options are left imo. Either you try different BIOSes which you think might work (at your own risk), based on your BIOS p/n, BIOS version and PCB p/n, or you learn to live with the slow BIOS, considering the card works perfectly in any other situation. EDIT: Try setting the agp speed to 4x (not slower than 8x but more compatible). <-- Random advice, but worth trying.
