Conspiracy Theory: 9/11

Discussion in 'The War Zone' started by Waffle, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Waffle

    Waffle Alpha Geek

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    Conspiracy Theories

    Said I'd start a thread on this topic.

    Post your Conspiracy Theories, any pictures, reasons, explanations, let us hear em. Some possible ideas:

    Moon Landing - This is a very controversial one for me, I have to say.

    9/11, and the $20 bills - Coincidence or Prediction?

    9/11 - planned by the USA Government...I'm against that idea.

    Roswell - What really fell on the earth that night?

    Any thoughts or additions, post em here.

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    I'm going to briefly discuss the moon landing, as a hoax.

    I could accept that we landed on the moon in 1969, but what I can't accept is how we've never done it again. Surely if in the 60's we could visit the moon, we'd have gone back again and again, as technology improved? Why just the once?

    Is it because NASA are afraid there are too many conspiracists that would ruin their plot to trick the world?

    An astounding amount of 'evidence' is available on the web, such as pictures of the shadows not matching up, and reflections not being correct etc.
    Assuming that the photos were not manipulated, then they would be extensive evidence suggesting the landing was a hoax. However I tried doctoring my own moon landing shot, and was able to succeed in under five minutes. The originals would be needed to prove this.

    A question raised is "why would they lie?" perhaps NASA couldn't manage the task, and having used up billions of dollars, with nothing to show for it, would destroy their company. Perhaps they couldn't bear the thought to be beaten again by the Russians?
     
  2. ThePenguinCometh

    ThePenguinCometh There is no escape

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    Wow, you like living dangerously! No-one else has taken your offer up yet so let me be the first.


    Hmm.... I'm still undecided on this one. My first impression was that it was a load of crap to suggest that it was a fake however two articles in the March 2002 edition of UFO Magazine (which I still have!) made me think again. The first was a reprint of an article in the Sunday Times by Jeremy Clarkson who basically pointed out that although just about every square inch of the moon has been photographed and is probably available for download somewhere, there are no pictures whatsoever of the moon buggys used by any of the three missions that landed there (Apollo's 15, 16 & 17) or of the American flag that Neil Armstrong is supposed to have planted and you just know how popular that one would be if it was possible to do! The other article related to an interview the three astronauts did shortly after their mission. From the pics in the mag the three look like they're being charged with the death penalty, not giving a press conference after achieving one of the greatest feats in mans history. They don't look happy at all. Admittedly, this is far from conclusive but they do raise some akward questions. The jury's still out on this one.

    As for why they would lie: pressure from above probably. By it's very nature NASA has always had a problem getting funding from the less forward-thinking decision makers in the US Government. They may have needed to show something to their masters to justify a research grant, rather than having that money allocated to buying a few more ICBM's to counter the Russian threat.


    Probably coincidence, there's quite a lot of those around.


    First off, the official story is a pack of lies. Anyone who disagrees with this should have a look at this movie and get back to me when they've got something sensible to say. As for it being set-up by the US Government? Don't know. One reasonably convincing arguement I've heard was that it was organised by non-US agents who planned to blame it on Islamic fundamentalists. The theory goes that the US Military knew about the plan and decided it was it their best interests to let it happen. From the amount of money and powers that have been thrown their way ever since, they were right. Whatever the truth of the matter, this whole episode is a rather sickening example of just how big of a lie you can get away with in modern society with the right propaganda machine in place.


    The most interesting aspect of this whole saga is that fact that within, if I remember correctly, a few years of this incident there was suddenly a veritable explosion of scientific "inventions" coming from a nearby research facility. I don't have the article to hand just at the moment but I vaguely remember that the guy credited with inventing the transistor was rather clueless according to a fellow scientest. Of course this may be just sour grapes on the speakers part but there does seem to have been something suspect about the lab in question.
     
  3. Waffle

    Waffle Alpha Geek

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    I'm glad you brought that flash to my attention.

    Wow, that really was an eye opener.

    That evidence really does raise questions for me, now I've seen it.

    In particular that about the amount of damage plane crashes leave behind. There really was no wreckage was there?

    Man I'm feeling pretty freaked (wrong word) right now. Something to think about, thats for sure.
     
  4. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    There's the jet engine that was there at the Pentagon on 9/11...pretty hard to sneak one of those around.
     
  5. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    also there wasn't a plane that hit it, no wings, tail wing or actual boeing 757 (or whatever) parts found. Cameras positioned outside the pentagon showed 4 frames of some unidentified "enemy fighter plane or whatever" hitting. If a US plane didn't hit it, where did it go?

    Also, why did FBI agents confiscate all security cameras in the vicinity. Why wasn't there air turbulence when the "plane" flew over a freeway,. then within feet above the pentagon lawn with no damage to the hundreds of feet leading to the pentagon.
     
  6. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    fahrenheit 9/11 is around...I'd say 80% lies. It's just a whole bunch of junk to sell a movie. Michael Moore is a jerk.
     
  7. Waffle

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    And camera's on the surrounding buildings, such as the hotel and nearby gas station, which had a perfect shot of what happened from different angles..well, they're footage was never released and conviscated by the FBI.

    When they want to protect us, they always send in the feds, which raises suspiscion and doubt to the event in question.
     
  8. Exfoliate

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    Maybe, I realize it's dramatized and sensationalized but when they've got actual footage of some of the thing the man says I can't help but wonder about him, maybe he didn't start the attacks but it still shows he's pretty imcompitant for a president. Just my opinion.
     
  9. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    I like reading these. I like that pentagon flash.
     

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