How to find out the fastest possible CPU speed your motherboard can support.

Discussion in 'CPU, Motherboards and Memory' started by djscott77, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. djscott77

    djscott77 Geek Trainee

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    Hi, i'm looking to upgrade my processor, but unfortunatly i do not know the maximum speed of CPU that my motherboard can support.
    I've gone and thrown away all the documentation that came with my motherboard, so I was wondering if there is any kind of program on the net that I can download and install to find it out for me.
    Can anyone help?

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
     
  2. harrack52

    harrack52 Supreme Geek

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    What board do you have ?
     
  3. Sniper

    Sniper Administrator Staff Member

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    This might help, though not sure, it should tell you what motherboard you have, from that find that motherboard on the manufacturers site, which should tell you the max speed the MB supports! http://www.voodoofiles.com/177
     
  4. harrack52

    harrack52 Supreme Geek

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    The download link doesn't work
     
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    Sniper Administrator Staff Member

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  6. djscott77

    djscott77 Geek Trainee

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    I used the program you advised me to used and it came up with this as my motherboard:

    V.830CH/830CF SiS-730-6A6ISJ19C-00 (Socket A)

    No manufacturer though. I ran it through a few search engines, but no result. Any of you guys have any idea?

    Thanks again.
     
  7. Sniper

    Sniper Administrator Staff Member

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    try searching for "SiS730" you might find some thing, I will try once I get back from work, if you find no results!
     
  8. djscott77

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    I tried searching and found that the SiS730 can support up to 133MHz FSB. Does that mean that is the maximum speed for my motherboard? Can I put in a Socket A CPU that does not go above 133Mhz FSB regardless of it's clock speed? Please clear these things up for me.

    Thanks.
     
  9. harrack52

    harrack52 Supreme Geek

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    I found a list of all the boards with an SiS730 chipset.

    tell us more about your board: number of pci slots, does it have a amr/cnr slot, onboard sound/video, etc.

    EDIT: the color of the board would also be usefull
     
  10. djscott77

    djscott77 Geek Trainee

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    Ok, here's what i could find out:
    3 PCI slots
    4 ISA slots
    1 AGP slot
    On board sound
    No onboard graphics

    And as you wanted to know, the colour of it is green.

    And guess what - I found a driver disk! Horay!
    No brand on it though, it just says 'motherboard - The brand you can trust'
    The installation program is by 'Magic Install'

    BTW, I put the CD in my drive - No info unfortunatly.
    But there was however, a readme file, all text which is there is below:


    SIS 530 / 620 / 630 / 730 / 635 / 735

    Mother Board CD Release Note (VERSION : A8)
    (THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE ASSUME YOU HAVE CD-ROM IN X: DRIVER)

    *************************************************************************

    DRIVER INSTALL NOTE !

    PS1 : IF YOU ARE USING WINDOWS95 OSR2 AS YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM, YOU MUST
    INSTALL USBSUPP.EXE FILE FIRST (FROM THE WIN 95 CD PACK), IN ORDER FOR YOU
    TO AVOID ANY PROBLEM WITH SOME AGP VGA CARD.

    PS2 : IF YOU ARE USING WINDOWS 95 OSR2 AS SIS MOTHER BOARD , WE
    SUGGEST INSTALL "AGPVXD" AND "IRQ ROUTER" DRIVER IN YOUR SYSTEM , AVOID
    SOME AGP/PCI CONFLICT.

    PS3 : IF YOU ARE USING WINDOWS NT4.0 DRIVER , SOME DRIVER NEED
    SERVICE PACK SUPPORT

    ****************************************************************************

    SIS635 (SIS635 / SIS735 CHIPSET Mother Board USE)

    1. HEALTH-W

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS635\HEALTH-W\*.*

    (1) ONLY FOR W83697HF I/O CHIPSET

    (2) SIS630 HARDWARE MONITOR , AUTOMATIC DETECT YOUR SYSTEM HEALTH
    AND WARNING ALARM

    2. ALC AC97 CODEC SOUND DEVICE

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS635\SOUND\*.*

    (1) RUNNING X: \SIS635\SOUND\SETUP.EXE FILE , WILL BE AUTO INSTALL
    WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN98ME/NT4.0/WIN2000 SOUND DRIVER

    3. SIS900 LAN DEVICE (PCI 10/100M Fast Ethernet Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS635\LANDRV\*.*

    (1) RUNNING X: \SIS635\LANDRV\SETUP.EXE FILE , WILL BE AUTO INSTALL
    WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN2000 LAN DRIVER

    (2) WINDOWS NT4.0 LAN DRIVER INSTALL , PLEASE REFER
    X: \SIS635\LANDRV\NT40\README.DOC

    5. SIS AGPVXD DRIVER

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS635\AGPVXD\*.*

    (1) AGPVXD DRIVER IS ONLY FOR EXTERNAL AGP BUS VGA CARD USED , ON
    BOARD VGA NO REQUIRE IT
    X:\SIS635\AGPVXD\WIN9X IS FOR WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN98ME DRIVER
    X:\SIS635\AGPVXD\WIN2000 IS FOR WIN2OOO DRIVER

    ****************************************************************************

    SIS630 (SIS630 / SIS730 CHIPSET Mother Board USE)

    1. ON BOARD VGA DRIVER

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS630\VGA\*.*

    (1) CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS630\VGA\WIN9X , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN8ME VGA DRIVER

    (2) WINDOWS NT4.0 VGA DRIVER INSTALL , PLEASE REFER
    X: \SIS630\SOUND\NT40\README.DOC

    (3) CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS630\VGA\W2000 , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL WIN2000 VGA DRIVER

    2. HEALTH-W

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS630\HEALTH-W\*.*

    (1) ONLY FOR W83697HF I/O CHIPSET

    (2) SIS630 HARDWARE MONITOR , AUTOMATIC DETECT YOUR SYSTEM HEALTH
    AND WARNING ALARM

    3. SIS7018 AC97 CODEC SOUND DEVICE

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS630\SOUND\*.*

    (1) RUNNING X: \SIS630\SOUND\SETUP.EXE FILE , WILL BE AUTO INSTALL
    WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN98ME/NT4.0/WIN2000 SOUND DRIVER

    4. SIS900 LAN DEVICE (PCI 10/100M Fast Ethernet Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS630\LANDRV\*.*

    (1) RUNNING X: \SIS630\LANDRV\SETUP.EXE FILE , WILL BE AUTO INSTALL
    WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN2000 LAN DRIVER

    (2) WINDOWS NT4.0 LAN DRIVER INSTALL , PLEASE REFER
    X: \SIS630\LANDRV\NT40\README.DOC

    5. SIS AGPVXD DRIVER

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS630\AGPVXD\*.*

    (1) AGPVXD DRIVER IS ONLY FOR EXTERNAL AGP BUS VGA CARD USED , ON
    BOARD VGA NO REQUIRE IT
    X:\SIS630\AGPVXD\WIN9X IS FOR WIN95/WIN98/WIN98SE/WIN98ME DRIVER
    X:\SIS630\AGPVXD\WIN2000 IS FOR WIN2OOO DRIVER

    ****************************************************************************

    SIS530 (SIS 530/5595 CHIPSET Mother Board USE)

    ON BOARD VGA DRIVER (SIS 530/5595 CHIPSET VGA Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS530\VGA\*.*

    1. Windows 95/98 Drivers:

    * CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS530\VGA\WIN9X , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL

    2. Windows NT4.0 Drivers:


    IDE DRIVER (SIS 530/5595 CHIPSET IDE Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS530\IDE\*.*

    1. Windows 95/98 IDE Drivers:

    * CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS530\IDE\WIN9X , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL

    2. NT4.0 IDE Drivers:

    HEALTH

    * SIS530 HARDWARE MONITOR , AUTOMATIC DETECT YOUR SYSTEM HEALTH
    AND WARNING ALARM

    ****************************************************************************

    SIS620 (SIS 620/5595 CHIPSET Mother Board USE)

    ON BOARD VGA DRIVER (SIS 620/5595 CHIPSET VGA Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS620\VGA\*.*

    1. Windows 95/98 Drivers:

    * CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS620\VGA\WIN9X , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL

    2. Windows NT4.0 Drivers:


    IDE DRIVER (SIS 620/5595 CHIPSET IDE Driver)

    THE PATH REFER TO X:\SIS620\IDE\*.*

    1. Windows 95/98 IDE Drivers:

    * CHANGE DIRECTORY TO X:\SIS620\IDE\WIN9X , RUNNING SETUP.EXE FILE AND
    AUTOMATIC INSTALL

    2. NT4.0 IDE Drivers:

    HEALTH

    * SIS620 HARDWARE MONITOR , AUTOMATIC DETECT YOUR SYSTEM HEALTH
    AND WARNING ALARM

    IRQ ROUTER

    * FOR WIN95 OSR2 COMPATIBLE PROBLEM USE , CAN AVOID DEVICE IRQ CONFLICT PROBLEM.

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\ CMI8738 (ONLY FOR ON BOARD CMI8378 SOUND CHIPSET)

    ***** INSTALL ON BOARD CMI8378 SOUND DRIVER ******

    1. X: \CMI8738\DOSDRV\*.*

    (1) Run INSTALL.EXE to install DOS drivers

    2. X: \CMI8738\WIN9X\DRV\*.*
    X: \CMI8738\WIN9X\APP\*.*

    (1) X:\CMI8738\WIN9X\DRV\*.* IS CMI8330 WIN95/98 SOUND DRIVER
    (2) REMOVE ANY ERROR DRIVERS FROM \CONTROL PANEL\SYSTEM\DEVICE MANAGER
    \OTHER DRIVER\"CMI8738 AUDIO ADAPTER", RESTART WINDOWS95/98 AND IT WILL
    AUTOMATICALLY PLAG & PLAY TO INSTALL ALL MULTIMEDIA DRIVERS.
    (3) X:\CMI8738\WIN9X\APP\WIN95\*.* , RUN SETUP.EXE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY
    INSTALL MULTIMEDIA RACK FOR WIN95
    (4) X:\CMI8738\WIN9X\APP\WIN98\*.* , RUN SETUP.EXE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY
    INSTALL MULTIMEDIA RACK FOR WIN98

    3. X:\CMI8738\NT40\DRV\*.*
    X:\CMI8738\NT40\APP\*.*

    (1) X:\CMI8738\NT40\DRV\*.* IS CMI8738 NT4.0 SOUND DRIVER
    (2) X:\CMI8738\NT40\APP\*.* , RUN SETUP.EXE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY
    INSTALL MULTIMEDIA RACK FOR WINDOWS NT4.0

    3. X:\CMI8738\WIN2000

    (1) X:\CMI8738\WIN2000\*.* IS CMI8738 WINDOWS 2000 SOUND DRIVER

    ********************************************************************************************************************************************************

    X:\ ESSOLO-1 (ONLY FOR ON BOARD ESSSOLO-1 SOUND CHIPSET)

    ***** ON BOARD ESS SOLO-1 SOUND DRIVER ******

    X:\ESSOLO-1\95-98DRV\*.*
    ESS SOLO-1 WINDOWS95/WINDOWS98 drivers

    * REMOVE ANY ERROR DRIVERS FROM \CONTROL PANEL\SYSTEM\DEVICE MANAGER
    \OTHER DRIVER\ESS AUDIO ADAPTER , RESTART WINDOWS95/WINDOWS98, YOUR
    WINDOWS95/WINDOWS98 WILL BE PLAG & PLAY TO INSTALL ALL MULTIMEDIA DRIVERS.


    X:\ESSOLO-1\WNT40\*.*
    ESS SOLO-1 NT4.0 drivers


    X:\ESSOLO-1\ESSRACK\*.*
    ESS SOLO-1 MULTIMEDIA RACK

    * RUNNING SETUP.EXE WILL BE AUTO INSTALL MULTIMEDIA RACK FOR WIN95 & WIN98
    & NT4.0

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\RECOVERY (RECOVERY GENIUS 21st)

    1. The Utility Only For Wiwndows NT4.0 And Wiwndows2000

    2. Run Setup.exe File Install RECOVERY GENIUS 21st First ,
    Then Restart Windows Press "Ctrl+R" Key Go To RECOVERY GENIUS 21st
    Manual Runing Install Function

    3. If You Forget Recovery Genius 21st Password , Run
    X:\recovery\password\readpwd.exe file , tell us The String ,
    We Can Support Password to you

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\MBIOS (MAGIC BIOS)

    (1) X:\MBIOS\SETUP.EXE CAN INSTALL BIOS LIVE UPDATE UTILITY
    (2) ONLY FOR WINDOWS95/98/98SE/98ME OS

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\FLASH (AWDFLASH.EXE)

    (1) The Directory is in \FLASH\AWDFLASH.EXE (V7.78)
    (2) AWDFLASH.EXE is a Utility For Update Award BIOS ,
    PLEASE REFER TO \FLASH\README.TXT USE IT

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\WINFLASH (AWDFLASH.EXE)

    (1) RUN X:\WINFLASH\SETUP.EXE FILE INSTALL WINFLASH UTILITY IN YOUR OS
    (2) YOU CAN Update Award BIOS IN WINDOWS95/98/NT/2000

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\CBROM (MAKE LOGO FILE IN BIOS UTILITY)

    (1) X:\CBROM\CBROM.EXE UTILITY CAN ADD LOGO FILE IN YOUR BIOS

    ****************************************************************************

    X:\PCCILLIN (Trend PC-cillin 2000)

    (1) High speed scanning Virus and easy operation
    (2) Updates Virus Code From Internet
    (3) Blocking harmful Java applets and malicious ActiveX controls
    (4) Virus information via Active Desktop

    ****************************************************************************
    Maybe some of you guys could make some sense of that.

    Some more good news is that on the CD, there is a serial number.

    S/No: 020717B1

    I guess you were all itching to know that, sorry I didn't realise it sooner.

    Nothing else I can find is on the driver CD, but if this forum supports attachments, i'll scan the front of the CD if you want.

    Thanks again guys.
     
  11. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    http://www.sis.com/wheretobuy/730cus.htm

    See if that link helps any. It lists all the motherboard companies that have purchased the 730 chipset from SiS.

    I'd suggest looking at PC Chips, Matsonic, Jetway and PCChips first. These are the lowest bidders on motherboards, and are more likely not to explicitly state it on their products.
     
  12. djscott77

    djscott77 Geek Trainee

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    Those manufacturers you just mentioned rang a bell!
    I remember the manufacturer now!

    It's Jetway!

    I looked on the list and on the website you advised and I went on the Jetway website, but no result, not even a SiS730 motherboard either.

    Anyway, at least I still got the manufacturer, this jigsaw is finally starting to come together.

    Please keep the help coming, I am really greatful for what you guys are doing.

    Thanks guys!
     
  13. harrack52

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    Some things are not clear. The only Jetway board with the SiS730 chipset is the Jetway 830CN. It has 3 pci slots, but no ISA slots nor does it have an agp slot, like you mentionned.
    So either you do not have these slots, or your board isn't a Jetway, or it's not the Sis730 chipset. Also, the board isn't green.
    In any case, the info you provided is contradicting.
    I will give you the info regarding the 830cn, but considering the info you gave us, this isn't your board.


    The 830cn supports processors up to Athlon 1.4ghz w/ FSB 100mhz, NOT 133mhz
    Same for the 830cn rev 1.0
    The 830cn rev 2.0 supports up to Athlon XP Palomino 2100+, NOT thoroughbred
    The 830cn rev 3.0 supports up to Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2400+

    Note that none of these boards support DLT3C processors (operating at 1.5V)

    http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/cpu_support.htm <--- Link to cpu support, scroll down to your board.

    The rev number is written somewhere on the board, usually between the pci slots.

    Please verify the info provided so we can help you better.
     
  14. djscott77

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    OK, thanks anyway, i appreciate your help, but I just think I need to do some more research along the lines of what you have given me.

    Maybe I could contact Jetway or something.

    Thanks for all your help, your hard work has been greaty appreciated.

    Farewell for now!
     
  15. shawncy

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    Hello, I have the same board as djscott77 , with an Amd duron 1300. I was also looking to see what is the maximum Amd cpu I can use as an upgrade. sis 730 6a6isj19c-00, v830ch/830cf ,A09 07-24-2002 Award , super i/o: winbond 697hf rev 2. I have checked the Jetway website, but could not find exact specs. Any help is appreciated.
     
  16. Gigas

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    By some strange quirk of fate, I have a board in front of me with the same BIOS / Board identifier as the 2 people above. (not mine, a friend who asked me to look at it)
    However, as well as the 830 CN, Jetway made an 830 CF, in 3 revisions, 1.0,2.0 & 3.0.
    The board I have is a 830 CF Rev 2.0 (this is stamped quite clearly on the board near the 2 DIMM slots.!!)
    It still doesn't have any ISA slots but it does have on board LAN and VGA but also an AGP slot.
    It also does have a 100 or 133 MHz FSB set by a jumper S1 which is behind the DIMM slots nearer to the edge of the board. (100 when open - [default] 133 when closed)
    The Maximum CPU speed can be found on the Jetway website as indicated by harrack52 earlier, but you need to find the board Revision and a BOM number which is on a yellow label on top of the I/O ports on the board.
    Also on the site are BIOS downloads to version A10. (I see yours is A09 shawncy!!)

    Finally, and I hope some of this is useful for you, I have managed to download a full 56 page manual from Jetway which covers the 830 CN / 830 CH & 830 CF motherboards all of which use the SIS 730 chipset.
    This link should get you in the right vicinity to find what you need
    http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/index.html

    but be aware, in the manuals section there is just one download site, Asia.
    Didn't seem to work, but the Bios download and Drivers did from Asia2, so I ftp'd directly to the ip address in Asia 2 and changed to the manual directory and found the same file. I guess someone must have moved the data at some point but not updated the link.

    In summary there are numerous possibilities as to what the maximum processor possible and you need to find the board, ie. is it 830 CN, CH or CF, the Revison number, ie. none 1.0, 2.0 or 3.0 and the BOM number. Only then can you find the max CPU.
    This one I have is a 830 CF, Rev 2.0 with a BOM no. of 04 making it 1.4G Duron and 1.4G Athlon 100 or 133 Mhz FSB.
    Most Rev 3.0 boards seem to go up to 2400+ Athlon XP's.

    Sorry for the war & peace, I'll make it brief next time.
    Hope something is of some use.

    PS First time user here and just found whilst editing my typo's that you can upload attachments so I have uploaded the pdf Manual.
     

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  17. shawncy

    shawncy Geek Trainee

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    Thanks for the info,it happens to be the 830ch rev 02. I'm a bit of a novice at this so I was wondering ,on the jetway page it says bom x 11. what does the x stand for and where the 11 is the bom ,mine is a 02. Would I still be able to use the Athlon 1.4 and can I go as fast at the xp 2100+? Thanks for your patience.
     
  18. Gigas

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    That's a good question.??
    Don't take this for granted (and hopefully someone else will have a view!!) but I guessed it means that the "X" column covers all BOM numbers up to but not including whatever is in the next column. If this were the case then I think your board would only go up to the Athlon 1.4 & not the 2100+ xp.
    If you look at all the other boards & revisions there are only the Rev. 2.0 ones that actually show 2 columns in the bom table, this would support the latest version releases of Rev. 2.0 boards being able to support higher CPU's.

    Don't know what BOM stands for though.!! Anyone..???
     
  19. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    Sounds like a typo'd "ROM", but other than that, no clue here.
     
  20. shawncy

    shawncy Geek Trainee

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    Now the big question... is the Athlon 1.4 worth the money to upgrade from the Duron 1.3??? Is it that much faster?
     

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