HTML or Java?

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  1. Exfoliate

    Exfoliate Geek Trainee

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    Hey all, (sorry if this belongs in Web Development), I just selected my potential classes for my Junior year today and signed up for HTML language. I wanted something fairly basic yet widely used. However my school also offers Advanced Placement Java (which apparently doesn't need any prior knowledge). Should I start with HTML and take Java as a senior? I don't know anything about computer languages but I've got to start somewhere. Java lets you write actual programs right? HTML is essentially like a web language that allows you to assemble your own site? Thanks everyone.
     
  2. Addis

    Addis The King

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    HTML is the mark-up code that you can use to simple put together a page. Java is a programming language which is used for web apps like games/chat and require a bit more thinking time than HTML. If I were you I'd take the chance of doing Java as you can find any good tutorial on the net for HTML, but java ones are a little scarce.
    Java will also give you some understanding of some programming concepts wihch HTML just isn't meant to be, since it was programmed itself in C++, and the syntax is similar if you do go onto C/C++ then it should be easier.
     
  3. Exfoliate

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    Okay, thanks man. Just out of curiosity what languages do you know? I know ProcalX has like 10 up his sleeve.
     
  4. Addis

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    If you want to get a better understanding of programming I suggest getting to know C/C++, although harder than some other languages they seem to be more rewarding.
    If you want to develop very quickly apps with nice fancy GUIs then try Visual Basic.
    The only problem with programming like this is finding free/cheap SDK/IDEs.
     
  5. ProcalX

    ProcalX all grown up

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    When i say i "know" a programming language, i am not fluent, just efficient or proficient..

    No programmer knows a "whole" programming language off by heart, as you program in areas which you are interested in, or you need to know.

    Server Side i know:
    HTML/DHTML/ASP/PHP/Mysql

    languages i know:
    Visual Basic/Delphi/Pascal/C+

    I suggest going for the Java, i've never really looked at Java, but it would be a good stepping stone, and Harrack52 is very good at Java on these forums, so you can always ask 4 help off him if needs be.

    Actually, i disagree with Addis, addis obviously has much better mathematical skills than most kids his age, as C+/C++ is quite hard.

    I highly recommend looking at Liberty Basic / Visual Basic or Pascal / Delphi

    Delphi is a very easy and powerful programming language
     
  6. Addis

    Addis The King

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    Well yea PX is just PX ;)

    Myself, i started out with BASIC when I was 8 or something. I can't remember. I was really chuffed when i made my first program with if statements but i didn't have a PC then.
    After that I started on some HTML just by learnin by doing basically. Then when I was 11/12 i tried to learn C++, trying to find an IDE was hard, trying to find a tutorial with examples that work was harder. But I kept on getting stuck and since i only had some crappy tutorial i stopped for a year, hoping I'd find out when i was a year older. This continued for about another 1/2 years.
    Now I don't really know any programming lanaguage deeply like an expert or intermediate. I can do/are familiar with C/C++/HTML/PHP/very small javascript/Visual Basic and very small assembly.
    like i said I'm no expert, Harrack will probably know a lot more.
     
  7. Exfoliate

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    Thanks guys. Java it is. I don't know if my school offers just straight C++ or not but Java will do so long as the book they give me is good.
     
  8. Addis

    Addis The King

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    You can always get a book on anything they don't teach or read up on the net (if you didn't why would you be here ;)) Our school is really crappy they don't teach us anything remotely interesting or if they do they 'dumb it down', they make spreadsheet formulae sound boring!
     
  9. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    I'm taking an intro to computer science next year. Covers c++, PHP, MySQL, Visual Basic, Delphi. That's what I know of. Gonna be really hard. I kinda wanna learn HTML, but I can have dreamweaver write it, then edit it. I hear hand written is a lot better to work with though
     
  10. Exfoliate

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    Jeeze, that is one beefy course. I don't know how they can cover all that but hey, that's pretty cool dude. I've got dreamweaver too but I haven't got around to using it yet.
     
  11. Addis

    Addis The King

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    I used to be a complete hand coder/oldie i know but now that dreamweaver does all the coding for me (without any errors) i always stick with the wysiwyg, only popping off to code view to insert little bits of code.

    Damn you guys in the US have those types of courses? Christ I wish we had something half as good as that here. UK sux ass. To have the opportunity to do all that would be my birthday pressie.
     
  12. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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  13. Exfoliate

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    Thanks dude, those are some pretty nice tutorials. I'll start checking those out to prepair myself for next year.
     
  14. Addis

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    I recommend the cprogramming one. The tutorials on there were pretty good at first, but they got really confusing after it went to arrays and pointers so i had to get a book myself. Good for learning looops though.
     

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