Is your firewall spying on you?

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  1. Waffle

    Waffle Alpha Geek

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    Oooh...

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29157
     
  2. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    "Is your firewall spying on you?"

    Not mine, No.


    Pretty sneaky what Checkpoint is doing, though not surprising in the slightest. I stopped recommending ZA after they started having popups to buy the pro version -- I guess that'd be right after Checkpoint bought them. Makes one wonder if any other commercial firewalls have the same practices. I'm pretty sure Kerio PF doesn't, but then again it's not exactly aimed at Joe and Jane User either.
     
  3. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    Gee, I'm behind a Netgear hardware firewall...I don't think we're having that problem. Never had problems with the D-Link one either (now it's mine).
     
  4. Addis

    Addis The King

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    I used Zonealarm until I read that, after which I switched to Sygate. But it doesn't really matter too much now as long as I have the hardware router working.
     
  5. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    Nope I dont have a firewall and no I dont use a Linux box and Yes I know its stupid but I guess im lucky because i rarely (possibly one a year) get viri without one.
     
  6. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    [ot]
    Without a firewall, worms are what you have to worry about, not virii. [/ot]
     
  7. Addis

    Addis The King

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    You don't have a router either, so it would be better for other people if you used a decent firewall.
     
  8. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    Lol AT I dont seem to get worms either...ill regret it one day but meh id rather not have another thing to configure (Yes Im lazy like that)
     
  9. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    If you're running XP, it has a built-in firewall. It's not a very powerful one, but it does at least stop the automated spread of worms.
     
  10. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    Ahh then I lied I have one :)
     
  11. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    I'm running some linksys combo [modem/wireless/4portrouter] box thing running a comcast firmware, so I wouldn't doubt it sending logs or the like somewhere.
     
  12. megamaced

    megamaced Geek Geek Geek!

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    It only protects against incoming traffic though, virus & spware can still transmit!
     
  13. StimpE

    StimpE lol, Internet!

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    DIALUP. the greatest firewall ever created. I don't run AV, or use a firewall (yes my XP one is disabled). The only annoyance I get is a few spyware, but rarely, and theyre ez to get rid of.
     
  14. Addis

    Addis The King

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    If you don't run an AV, then how would you know you don't harbour any virii, or worse worms?
     
  15. Addis

    Addis The King

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    Not the firewall in SP2, which is much better than the default XP one.
     
  16. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    Sorry but that's untrue. If you are exchanging information with the Internet, you have a chance of picking up malware. Just because the process happens more slowly on dialup doesn't mean you are any more secure.
     
  17. StimpE

    StimpE lol, Internet!

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    I occaisonally run housecall if I suspect I have one.
     
  18. megamaced

    megamaced Geek Geek Geek!

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    Sorry but you are wrong! The Windows Firewall in Service Pack 2 only protects against incoming traffic! Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me :)
     
  19. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    No, he's right. Though the firewall still works in only one direction, it was vastly improved. The Random seed generation is truly random now, whereas before SP2 it was trivial to predict and implement a MITM attack. Also, the way the TCP stack was handled leaked information that gave away the OS type and what services were running on it. I believe it is still possible to detect the OS through their firewall, but the overall implementation is improved.
     

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