Liquid and phase change cooling.

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Exfoliate, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Exfoliate

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    Alright since I don't really know much at all about either of these systems I'll need you guys to help me out here. Since I can only imagine water cooling is way cheaper what kind of temps should I expect on say something hot like a P4 3.2GHz (assuming I was to somehow get some good water cooling components all set up right). And I know PhaseChange cooling is crazy and gives you incredably low temps but it's pricey. But I mean what kind of prices would I be looking at for a decent phasechange setup (out of curiostiy)? I've heard some people go the DIY Dry Ice route which seemed good untill I read about costs of the ice itself, apparently 20lbs. is good for "an intense benchmarking session" now I realize that could take awhile but I think 1lb. is like $3.20 so that would add up real fast. Hope you can just run me though the basics: price of the average combined cost of all the components needed for each method, difficulty of instillation, drawbacks? Thanks all.
     
  2. pelvis_3

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    As for the basics on the cooling methods, you can read about it Here.
    The thread was started by Matt555 and i contributed a little.

    As for the temp drops, on a good water cooling system you should expect 25*C Idle and no higher than 45*C on load. With Peltier (Phase Change) cooling, you should expect a 3~4*C Difference than whats written above :good:
     
  3. Exfoliate

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    Wow, just 4 or 5*, that's not too much. Guess water is the way to go. Gives quite a big of head room really. Nice article you guys had there. I was reading it after I posted, don't know how I missed it. Well it doesn't really matter that much at this point unfortunately as I doubt I'll be building my own rig untill this summer.
     
  4. pelvis_3

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    Cheers :good:
    Yeah, water cooling would be the way to go. Keep in mind that if you combine Phase Change WITH Water Cooling you'd get some impressive results. As i wrote in that thread i linked, some Peltier units don't alow the CPU to be cooled any lower than 28*C due to condensation!
    You can probably pick up a good thermaltake water cooling unit for about $150 and a Peltier Element by itself for $70~80 (if you can find one) :)
     
  5. Matt555

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    Some systems have a heater element to put behind the motherboard to try and stop condensation, this means you can end up with minus temps, so even with a voltage increase for an overclock you're temps won't be high at all...
     
  6. Exfoliate

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    Wow, awesome, you guys want to link me some of those perhaps? I really don't know what's good and what isn't.
     
  7. Matt555

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    Well Asetek make phase change, air and water cooling units. Their Phase Change units sound very good, you can buy them for a Lian-Li Case or you can buy the actual Vapochill case with the cooling unit built into it.
     
  8. Exfoliate

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    Sweet, a case with it built in would be the ultimate really. Good work man:)
     
  9. Matt555

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    They seem to be the most commercial Phase Change units I've come across, and they make water cooling systems as well, they seem like a great company and with prices as expensive as they are I would expect sub-zero temperatures...
     

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