Liquid and phase change cooling.

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Alright since I don't really know much at all about either of these systems I'll need you guys to help me out here. Since I can only imagine water cooling is way cheaper what kind of temps should I expect on say something hot like a P4 3.2GHz (assuming I was to somehow get some good water cooling components all set up right). And I know PhaseChange cooling is crazy and gives you incredably low temps but it's pricey. But I mean what kind of prices would I be looking at for a decent phasechange setup (out of curiostiy)? I've heard some people go the DIY Dry Ice route which seemed good untill I read about costs of the ice itself, apparently 20lbs. is good for "an intense benchmarking session" now I realize that could take awhile but I think 1lb. is like $3.20 so that would add up real fast. Hope you can just run me though the basics: price of the average combined cost of all the components needed for each method, difficulty of instillation, drawbacks? Thanks all.
 
As for the basics on the cooling methods, you can read about it Here.
The thread was started by Matt555 and i contributed a little.

As for the temp drops, on a good water cooling system you should expect 25*C Idle and no higher than 45*C on load. With Peltier (Phase Change) cooling, you should expect a 3~4*C Difference than whats written above :good:
 
Wow, just 4 or 5*, that's not too much. Guess water is the way to go. Gives quite a big of head room really. Nice article you guys had there. I was reading it after I posted, don't know how I missed it. Well it doesn't really matter that much at this point unfortunately as I doubt I'll be building my own rig untill this summer.
 
Cheers :good:
Yeah, water cooling would be the way to go. Keep in mind that if you combine Phase Change WITH Water Cooling you'd get some impressive results. As i wrote in that thread i linked, some Peltier units don't alow the CPU to be cooled any lower than 28*C due to condensation!
You can probably pick up a good thermaltake water cooling unit for about $150 and a Peltier Element by itself for $70~80 (if you can find one) :)
 
Some systems have a heater element to put behind the motherboard to try and stop condensation, this means you can end up with minus temps, so even with a voltage increase for an overclock you're temps won't be high at all...
 
Wow, awesome, you guys want to link me some of those perhaps? I really don't know what's good and what isn't.
 
Well Asetek make phase change, air and water cooling units. Their Phase Change units sound very good, you can buy them for a Lian-Li Case or you can buy the actual Vapochill case with the cooling unit built into it.
 
They seem to be the most commercial Phase Change units I've come across, and they make water cooling systems as well, they seem like a great company and with prices as expensive as they are I would expect sub-zero temperatures...
 
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