Ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy gibbon) beta released
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RHochstenbach
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Yeah Feisty Fawn has long loading times. It takes 15 minutes to boot on a Pentium 4 with 1 GB of RAM installed here :confused:
But I like the great support for WLAN USB adapters.
Right, but I haven't added an official description of Windows: DOS with a window manager :P
RHochstenbach
Administrator
The NT series are also DOS based. They got the files MSDOS.SYS, IO.SYS, autoexec.bat and command.com. These files are empty, but if they are not needed, why are they still present?
megamaced
Geek Geek Geek!
I am tired of Kubuntu and Ubuntu. Sure I loved apt-get but the lack of proper GUI administration tools has driven me away. Give me a YaST admin tool any day :cool:
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The NT kernel is not DOS based. The reason why those files are present is for compatibility with legacy applications [/ot]
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The NT kernel is not DOS based. The reason why those files are present is for compatibility with legacy applications [/ot]
RHochstenbach
Administrator
Me too, I'm giving Mandriva 2008 a shot :)
[ot]Yeah that's right. I forgot that :doh:[/ot]
What type of administration tools are you looking for mega? I noticed the same thing, there are some admin tools but not nearly as extensive as the likes of Mandriva, which is wizards for everything and 9 times out of 10 work very well.
megamaced
Geek Geek Geek!
If you have ever used YaST then you would know what I am talking about! YaST has a module for everything! From configuring a mouse all the way to configuring an NFS share and more! You simply don't get that kind of GUI unless you are running Mandriva or SUSE!
The other reason I (re-)choose SUSE is because it is used in the corporate world. It's all well and good knowing Ubuntu but if no businesses use it then your experience is useless! SUSE was my first "Linux sweetheart" and now I am beginning to understand why that was!
megamaced
Geek Geek Geek!
I would just like to add that now I have tried the one click install after two weeks lack of internet that the one click install nVidia proprietory drivers installed perfectly! There is not much more then I can ask for then that! SUSE's one click install is much better then anything apt-get can offer! (Yes that was me being bitchy to Kubuntu / Ubuntu!) :cool:
Anti-Trend
Nonconformist Geek
I hate YaST :) Plus, I won't even work with SUSE if I can help it, since Novell bought them. Novel + MS = <3.
As for corporate support and nice tools, ever try RHEL? The community equivalent is CentOS. That's usually my first choice for servers, since it's very well supported, much more reliable than SUSE by design, has great repos (SUSE doesn't!), and has a 7 year official support lifespan for each major release. On a server, I never want to have to reinstall until the hardware is obsolete. Also, SUSE banked heavily on the Reiser filesystem. Since Hans Reiser is standing trial for the murder of his wife and his company is on its way out, SUSE's had to make some changes in the name of damage control as far as filesystem support goes. Many of their customers will be left in the lurch. My second choice for servers would be plain old Debian, since it's probably the most flexible platform out there (next to maybe Gentoo... but who wants to have to compile everything on a server?)
On the desktop, I think Debian's a great choice for many reasons, including but not limited to:
- Amazing selection of up-to-date-packages
- Literally hundreds of well-supported repositories
- Best package management system on any OS (apt + aptitude; don't mention automatix to me, since it's badly broken. And YaST is too cumbersome to automate effectively.)
- Simple, effective upgrade path for each release ('aptitude dist-upgrade' and you're running the next release)
- High-grade, powerful installer allows you to install the OS remotely via SSH, bootstrap from another OS, push images remotely, or even install to a software RAID that you create on-the-fly
- Excellent build environment ('apt-get build-dep $PACKAGE' will get you the dependencies for anything you want to compile, and deb packages mean you'll only get exactly what you need, nothing more)
- Desktop-agnostic user experience -- one desktop or window manager will work just as well as another (not gnome-centric like Ubuntu/RHEL or KDE-centric like SUSE)
- Perhaps the best freedom of choice on any platform allows you to scale your system to exactly your needs (RPM cannot 'suggest' a dependency; it either installs a package or doesn't. That means you may end up with the kitchen sink when you only wanted the faucet).
- Fast, stable and secure out of the box
- Extremely experienced and knowledgeable developers and userbase
...just my quick anti-SUSE rant. :P I strongly dislike *ubuntu on both the server and the desktop, but I'd still prefer it over SUSE in either case. :)
Well I thought I should mention a major problem with Ubuntu Gutsy. By default, the ipv6 kernel module is loaded which causes extremely slow network performance in most circumstances. It means that the kernel waits for the ipv6 to time out before trying ipv4. (or something to that effect)
To solve this issue, you must stop the ipv6 module from being loaded, create a new file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 and enter the single line "blacklist ipv6", without quotes and reboot.
Edit: Seems that disabling ipv6 doesn't always work. In this case, it could be a DNS issue. (Really not sure whats going on here, but heres a fix anyway. Use OpenDNS if you're still having problems.
To solve this issue, you must stop the ipv6 module from being loaded, create a new file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 and enter the single line "blacklist ipv6", without quotes and reboot.
Edit: Seems that disabling ipv6 doesn't always work. In this case, it could be a DNS issue. (Really not sure whats going on here, but heres a fix anyway. Use OpenDNS if you're still having problems.
RHochstenbach
Administrator
I normally always disable ipv6. But thanks for the information :beer: