Well I just failed life...

Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by Exfoliate, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. Exfoliate

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    :(:eek::x: :( :swear: Hopefully that helped to illustrate my experience. Well anyway so yesterday went from being extreamly good when I found out the UPS truck dust drove up with all my friends beautiful components. To not so good when I found out his case design totally sucked and there was nothing tooless about it. I had to screw everything thing in by hand and the whole upper drive rails were slightly warped so I coudln't get the optical drive in place without some major brute force. Then the massive video card wouldn't fit in because the huge metal bracket protruded too much and the stupid plastic clips were in the way. So I unscrewed the lot and finally got it in. I set everything else up and when I finally turned it on I got lights, a ton of fan noise (the video card is the loudest beast I've ever heard) and no picture at all. So the only way I could turn it off was by shutting off the psu. I fiddled around and tried it again and the instructions were no existent for most everything useful so I didn't know how to set up the m/b switch, the HD Led, etc. All I could do is wing it. I really wish they'd make a universal standard for those little jumpers. I looked at the PCIe X800GTO card and it was in properly but there was this little 4-pin connection that was left unfilled. I Just knew that had to be the answer but I couldn't find anything to plug it into. Then I just concluded it wasn't necessary for a POST and if it had needed external power there would have been a 4 pin molex connection empty intead of a tiny jumper style thing.
    Anyway I still couldn't get it to post. Everything else seemed to have power so there was no beeping but I was pretty clueless about what to do. So I kept charging on anyway. Then after switching off the psu again. And then turing it back on I got no indication that I was getting power. And I guess I wasn't as the power button did nothing. That really sent me over the edge but I kept at it. Though it seemed like a good idea at the time it turned out to be fatal when I decided to take apart my rig to test components. I took my mobo and put it in his case, tried out his ram in my mobo. Went to power it up and nothing. I just assumed that I didn't have the switches configured properly but nothing really seemed to work. I swaped psu, changed his mobo into my case. Tried another psu. I got a bit of light now and then with different combos and powered up on a couple occasions but I could only post when I used my still intact computer with the monitor to make sure it wasn't defective.
    And now where I'm at now is for some reason I can no longer get anything to power up. I don't understand what's going on. I reassemble my rig like I had it more or less and it powers up. Then I switch off the psu and try it again. Nothing. Okay did I totally f it up or what?
    Here are my thoughts on what could be wrong though alot of them don't explain why I'm not getting at least a little sign of power.
    -my jumpers aren't configured properly
    -all my psu's are now dead
    -I killed my mobo, most likely I was too rough as I installed them in a hury and they were scraping around on the standoffs when I installed them sometimes. Though they didn't look damaged.
    -my power cables are shot
    -something's up with the ram? not that that would make any sense but whatever.
    -my monitor doesn't like my video card.
    -the video card really does need that little connection
    -it didn't screw in the vga and dvi connectors, tidy my cables, mount my psu, or close my case so the combined total was just enough to turn the tides against me. Yeah, right...
    -By the way there was no static discharge so that's out:)
    Yeah that's all I can think of. Needless to say I'm totally steamed now. I could have basically destroyed my friends computer AND mine. Lets see that's about oh $2500 worth of components down the drain. Okay well I know not everything can be dead but there's obviously something screwed up. I'm going to frig around with a bit more, try my monitor, swap ram. close it all up, and see what happens. If you guys don't know what's going on. And I can't get it to work. I'll probably send it to my dads school. Which he'll be very unhappy about. And the computer class will have a hay day tinkering around with a bunch of dead components trying to get it to post. I know I can RMA my friends parts but it would be a royal pain and I'd be very embarresed saying "Sorry I goofed, mind if I return everything and try again?"
    His build specs: http://www.hardwareforums.com/new-build-specs-friend-8504/
    My specs are in My Computer on the left of course.

    Sorry to write a book about it but I just had to get it all out. Hope you can spot something I didn't.
     
  2. Exfoliate

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    Alright well I tried the new mobo with some old ram (don't think the ram made any difference) and the PSU I was using. It powered up fine and as always, not beeping. But neither monitor would post. I think I'll try my old video card (the joy of having AGP and PCIe on the same mobo:)) and see if that makes a difference. While I'm at it I'll go check ASRocks site just for the heck of it. Really hope I can sort this out.
     
  3. Exfoliate

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    Well looks like I'm running my own show here. You guys must all be at school:) ( I sayed home after an extreme spell of pleading and reasoning to work on this). Anyway I tried my old 6800 and still didn't get a post. So it looks like it's not entirely video card related. I really hope it's not the processor! Though wouldn't I get some beeping? And I really think I did install it just fine. Lifted the lever, dropped it in carefully, made sure it was evenly seated, snapped it shut. Put some AS on it, slapped on the crappy, though surprisingly quiet stock heatsink and let it go. The fan spins but I guess not much is going on under there. Hmmm, this isn't looking good:(
     
  4. Matt555

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    You've tried it barebones?
    Changed RAM?
    Changed CPU?
    Changed Cables?
    Made sure motherboard isn't shorting out on case?
     
  5. Exfoliate

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    Thanks for the responce! yay! Okay I've tried it with mobo, cpu, cooler, 1 stick of what I think is good ram, just changed the cpu, and used each of the video cards. Still nothing. I've used both power cables, swapped between the VGA connector and the DVI to VGA connector. I haven't seen a post since I tried the new monitor with my PC before I took it appart.
    What do you mean by shorting out on the case? Make sure it's not toughing any part of the metal? I think I've got a rouge screw floating around somewhere, maybe he's the problem?
    Otherwise I'm just about ready to call it quits and send everything back and get my dads friends braniacs to fix my PC, assuming that's possible. Thanks for the advice though.
     
  6. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    Did you ever remember to reset your CMOS with all this comotion going on?
    I don't know if it's going to help, but whenever you build a computer and all the components are installed, you should reset the CMOS before you power on!
     
  7. Exfoliate

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    Thanks, yeah guess I'll pop that little battery out for a bit then. Can't hurt. Man does this ruin my week though!
     
  8. Fred

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    You may want to try booting it up with that little 4 pin (jumper looking thing) connected with power, since it IS the power connector for the card. I've heard that it may boot without it connected, but with stability issues. But anyway, hope it works out for you. Sorry about your problem.
     
  9. Girtho961

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    i had a similar issue, except with the power connector for an intel CPU, it said for stability purposes (not neccessary) so i thought nothing of it. Every thing in the case seemed to power on fine, but no picture, tried different video cards etc. Then i decided to try to plug in the 8 pin CPU connector, and my PSU t didnt have one so i had to go out and buy an adapter. Worker perfectly after that. If you dont have the right connector for that part, go out to a PC store and buy the adapter.
    In other words i agree with Fred
     
  10. Exfoliate

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    Thanks guys but I don't have any such adaptor and neither does Newegg from the looks of it. Why it wasn't bundled is beyond me. Anyway I've decided to RMA most of the stuff as I'm pretty much at the end of my rope right now:( I have a feeling there's a lot more going on then a lack of power to one card. Remember that I used my AGP 6800 and made sure it had power and I got the same results.
     
  11. StimpE

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    I would do it trial and error style, keep swapping things out with parts you know work, and see what works and what doesn't. Also, not many new mobo's require moving jumpers around just to boot, if that's what you were suggesting.

    Good Luck!
     
  12. Exfoliate

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    Thanks man but I got everything RMA'ed that I could to start with a fresh slate. Unfortunately I just missed the 7 day return deadline for Processors because it shipped late so now I have to figure out how to get a replacement from AMD, which I'm totally clueless about???
    Anyway I'll inquire in a new thread about a build that is almost fool proof:)
     

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