Source Lag with Amazing Comp!? Help

Discussion in 'Video Gaming' started by Celtzer, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Celtzer

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    Specs:
    Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb
    ASUS P5NSLI Mobo
    2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram
    SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache
    Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb
    550Watt Ultra Power supply

    My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs:

    ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm

    Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?
     
  2. Celtzer

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    Doesn't Make Sense, I need your Intellect

    Specs:
    Leadtek NVIDIA 8800gts 640mb
    ASUS P5NSLI Mobo
    2GB OCZ DDR2 667mhz ram
    SATA II Western Digital HD 160gig 32mb cache
    Pentium D 3.4ghz dual 800fsb
    550Watt Ultra Power supply

    My friend out frames me in source by 45fps with these specs:

    ASUS M2N-E mobo, 1GB Corsair XMS DDR2 800, 7900GT, AMD 4200+ 65nm

    Am I bottlenecking anywhere? I don't understand this. Do you guys see anything wrong with the combination of hardware with my specs?
     
  3. Wildcard

    Wildcard Big Geek

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    Doesn't Make Sense, I need your Intellect

    Are you both running the same resolution and detail level in source (half life?)?
     
  4. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    What operating system are you running? How about your friend?
     
  5. Celtzer

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    Both of us are using Windows XP Pro
     
  6. Celtzer

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    Doesn't Make Sense, I need your Intellect

    I have everything on low on 1024x768, he uses 640x480 with everything on low
     
  7. Anti-Trend

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    I'd check for the usual culprits in Windows:

    • Missing, corrupt or outdated hardware drivers
    • Malware / spyware / bloatware
    • Superfluous running processes wasting resources (antivirus?)
    • Registry corruption
    • Filesystem corruption

    In fact, it may be best for you to just do a fresh install and start from scratch. Patch and install latest drivers, defrag (very necessary on NTFS filesystems), and remove or disable any unused software. I'll leave this exercise to your descretion, but it's the best way to get a clean slate in terms of OS-level troubleshooting.

    On the hardware level, you can check RAM and bus timings, clock speeds, voltage, and heat dissipation. Also make sure that the HDD's running well, since Windows likes to swap... a lot ... no matter how much RAM you have. If you have a slow / damaged HDD, your Windows system will be slow.
     
  8. Kastang

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    I would do everything mentioned above; I would download a program called CCleaner. I would use the uninstaller from that program to remove unused programs from your computer, also Use the registry cleaner on it.. I use it once every month. If nothing else, it keeps your registry somewhat clean.

    Another thing I would check is to make sure you have the newest drivers for your 8800 -- You also might want to try Omega Drivers - They are drivers more geared to gaming rather then the standard generic drivers. I personally use them on my system I find that they make the game run smoother and I gain a few FPS. Don't forget to uninstall your old drivers before installing these.

    Also, depending on how old your XP version is, It might be best to format - I dont know how your setup is but I personally have all my games and personal documents on one SATA drive and XP on another, so when I need to format, I dont have to reinstall everything.

    Also, Do you play any other games and does it lag in that game also?
     
  9. Celtzer

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    Wow, thanks you two... I really do appreciate it.... The thing is, my source runs fine, but when I record a demo it drops my fps up to 35, while my friend with the lower specs drops his 10-15, and has an average higher fps than me. Thanks for links.
     
  10. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    Doesn't Make Sense, I need your Intellect

    Do you have Vsync disabled in the game and in the nVidia control panel?
     
  11. Celtzer

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    Oh trust me, Vsync is disabled, i know all about the video settings it just boggles me how crappy the fps are, especially when i record a demo.
     
  12. Big B

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    Threads merged. For everyone's benefit, including your own, don't make a new thread several places on the exact same subject. One is plenty, and if a mod or admin feels it will work better elsewhere, we'll move it. Thanks!

    Now back to your thread.
     
  13. Big B

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    Is he using anything to record his framerates? What are you using to record your framerates?
     
  14. Celtzer

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    Sorry about that Big B, nah there is a command in source where you type net_graph 3 in console and it shows your latency, fps, in/out speed etc.
     
  15. Anti-Trend

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    Well, that's enough to make a pretty big difference right there. Try it at the same resolutions and see what your results look like then.
     
  16. Willz

    Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D

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    Very unusual this low framrate, with my 8800GTS and an Athlon 63 3700+ @ 2.8ghz, I run at 1440x900, sometimes 1280x1024, all max, 16xAA/AF and my average fps used to be around 150+ fps. (This is when using the test in the settings)

    When I record a video using fraps the frame rate drops to a solid 25fps as thats the framrate I want fraps to record at.
     
  17. Celtzer

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    hmm, I wonder if it would be my cpu or what! I just know when I upgraded from my 6800gt and a 3.4ghz intel cpu... that i barely could tell a difference between my 8800gts and pentium D 3.4ghz dual... I just don't know whats up.
     
  18. Willz

    Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D

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    Can you download 3DMark 05 or 06 and post your results, that will give an idea of your performance.

    For 3DMark 05 I am guessing your score should be around 12000-15000 and 06 around 8000. Leave all settings at standard (3DMark is free btw if you did not know)
     
  19. cloud17

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    i would try setting your settings exaclty the same and im sure you will have a better result, also i have a pentium d 3.4ghz if you want to see if its that then go to your bios and change the bus speed to 223 that will put you up to about 3.8ghz btw i have done this with stock cooling and it dont go above 55*c so it shud be fine
     

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