Network control

Discussion in 'Networking and Computer Security' started by Swansen, Aug 15, 2006.

  1. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    First off, if i understand correctly, say there are two computers using the same internet connection and even if one computer isn't using the internet or playing a games ect the connection will still be split in half or does it not use any bandwith while idle. Thats my first question. My second question is it possible to give one computer more bandwith than the other. Thats my second question. Also can access be shut off from the network from the other computer without disabling the connection through network settings. Thats my third question.
     
  2. krock923

    krock923 Geek Trainee

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    First off, the machine is not using bandwidth unless there is network activity (ok, there is a tiny tiny bit for broadcast messages and such). A switch guarantees 100Mb/s to each device connect to it (or 10 or 1000 depending on the hardware). That is just within the local lan, however and there is only so much bandwidth coming into your home from the outside to share. Because of the way it works, every machine on the LAN should end up with a chance to talk.

    Your second question depends on how the connection is being shared. Is it through a switch? through windows connection sharing, or something else entirely? (back when i used AOL, i set up a proxy server on my home machine to get internet to my linux machines. . .fun) anyway. . .

    A switch, you can usually disable the port (well, a manged switch). It's possible on some but not all home router/switches ( a home router contains a switch) to disable a single port.

    If it's through windows, well i don't know enough about windows internet connection sharing. Also, if it's through windows, you may want to invest in a router.

    Also, what type of connection is it? If it's broadband you probably do not need to worry.

    Finally, you may want to look into traffic shaping. Traffic shaping allows you to give higher priority to certain machines or protocols, depending on how you want to set it up.
     
  3. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    yes i have a router and its windows and broadband, but i want to use all the bandwidth possible and i use it the most so i don't want to have half the connection speed when the other computer isn't being used. Kinda hard to put into words, but i need to look into traffic sharing.
    Also another question, can i get a router or adapter of some kind so i can hook up a computer with gigabit ports to normal ethernet ports.
     
  4. krock923

    krock923 Geek Trainee

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    It should work natively, you'll only get 100 speed though.
     
  5. jester45

    jester45 Big Geek wanna be

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    what i think one of you questions where that if u have a 1mb connection and have 2 computers on it would one computer get 500mb and the other get 500mb?

    if that was what you talking about no they dont do that if you have a 2 computer lan both computer have the 1mb speed unless the other is useing something so or an example

    computer 1 is useing 100mbps and computer2 is useing 300mbps both computers still have more bandwith if your on computer 1 and start a few downloads it could be useing 900mbps but computer 2 would only be useing 100mbps then

    in short they share it its not split
     
  6. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    got it, thats good to know, i just thought the connection was evenly split to each machine on the network regarless if it is being used or not.
     
  7. max12590

    max12590 Masterful Geek

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    I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure this is how it works: hubs split the connection, switches switch it between computers, and routers can give different amount to different machines. Also, on most home routers can cut off internet access to certain ports always, or during defined times (date/time).

    I don't think, however, that many residential routers offer much traffic shaping capability. Hmm, actually, when I updated the firmware on my router (Linksys WRT-54G) I got a tab for QoS (Quality of Service). This allows me to give priorty to devices by specifying the MAC address or ethernet port, and to certain applications.
     
  8. jester45

    jester45 Big Geek wanna be

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    i realy need that option i need to slow my sis's computer down she is a movie downloader
     
  9. Karanislove

    Karanislove It's D Grav80 Of Luv

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    lol.... Hook the network wire directly to your computer and then give her access according.(I mean put two network cards in your PC and remove the router.):D
     
  10. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    yes i could do that, i have two onboard port, so i could just send one out to a router
     
  11. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    A hub is basically a port replicator. They are useless for most everything (except perhaps sniffing traffic).

    There are many types of switches, but your basic layer-2 switch just stores & forwards the traffic without any interaction.

    A router is a device which routes traffic between network segments. Whether or not they can do traffic shaping is another matter.

    QoS is good, traffic shaping is better. But it takes a bit more resources than most home-class routers are equipped with to do either very well, I'm afraid. :( If you really want to do traffic shaping at home, my advice is to build a m0n0wall or IPCop out of an old PC.
     
  12. jester45

    jester45 Big Geek wanna be

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    aa no old computer to do so i will just get on her computer when she isnt useing it and chage something
     
  13. max12590

    max12590 Masterful Geek

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    I knew the guru of all things network related would come clear this up. I tried to set up monowall but my old PC was being old and senile. Oh well. But anyways, I'm pretty sure you could just set her ethernet port to run at 10 Mbps, but I guess that wouldn't actually do anything. Oh well. What kind of router do you have?
     
  14. jester45

    jester45 Big Geek wanna be

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    im not sure but i will find something to put on there or change
     

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