AMD or Intel?

Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by JP4LSU, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. harakim

    harakim Big Geek

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    A) I already suggested getting the AMD.

    B) I'm not going to fight about it.

    edit: b
     
  2. Exfoliate

    Exfoliate Geek Trainee

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    I appreciate the clarification, I was just curious. There's nothing wrong with not liking AMD or liking Intel as you're definately not alone concidering how many people by Dells and other computers using Intel chips.
     
  3. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    AMD's model rating system started as comparison to the Thunderbird core, NOT to any Intel CPU. An Athlon XP3000 was supposed to be the equivalent performance of a Thunderbird-core Athlon running at 3GHz. As far as I know, AMD has not changed their system for the A64 line up.

    Once again, AMD's Performance Rating does not correspond to the clockspeeds of Intel CPU's.
     
  4. JP4LSU

    JP4LSU Geek Trainee

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    Hey guys,
    I'm open for other suggestions also, but I have looked 3 ASUS mobos and they are linked below.

    They are both SLI and I will probably put 1 6800GT in the mobo and next year put a 2nd 6800GT in it. My question about these mobos is that one says the PCI-e's in "SLI mode x8 x8" and one says "SLI mode full support x16 x16"

    I'm assuming that the more expensive one allows both cards to run with 16 pipes each and the other is only 8 pipes for each card. Am I right in this.

    I will probably go with the $160 mobo instead of the $245 though.

    Also what is the difference between the deluxe and premium. Priced the same (+/-) but do they both have the same SLI mode capabilities. Can I assume they have the same SLI capability, since they are similarly priced?
    Is SLI mode standard at x8 x8 on mobo's if not stated somthing else?

    Thanks for the help and any inputs. It's appreciated.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568
     
  5. harakim

    harakim Big Geek

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    x8 x8 is PCI express x8
    x16 x16 is PCI express x16

    Therefore, you will get twice as much bandwidth with the x16

    If you want to keep this motherboard for a long time, I would think x16 would be the way to go, but as always, I think it's (x16 over x8) more hype than anything.
     
  6. beretta9m2f

    beretta9m2f Karate-Chop Action Gabe

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    I know the clockspeeds don't directly correspond to Intel's; however, what would a AMD 64 3500+ @ 2.2 ghz roughly equivalent to in intel standards? I always have friends asking me these sort of questions and i've never been able to give a straight answer.
     
  7. Willz

    Willz MiCrO$oFt $uK$ :D

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    i think its rated at 3.5ghz, so it will perform as good as a 3.5ghz pentium 4
     
  8. Addis

    Addis The King

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    Disregard my post about PR, that is calculated with AMDs own real life performance benchmarks. They used to compare it to Intel with the very old AMDs like the K5 I believe so I was mistaken.
     
  9. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    A 3400+ to a 3800+ single core Athlon is roughly comparable to a 3.2-3.6GHz P4/PD equivalent (x30-x40, where x=5xx or 6xx for a 530, 540, 630 or 640 Pentium). As I'm sure you realize, this varies on what you're doing.
     
  10. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    The A8N SLI Deluxe doesn't have the heatpipe cooling on the chipset like the A8N SLI Premium does, and it may include a slightly better accessory package, but don't quote me The A8N32-SLI uses the nForce 4 SLIx16 which features a total of 16 lanes each to both PCIe x16 lanes. The A8N SLI uses the older nForce 4 SLI, which features 20 PCIe lanes total, 16 of which are devoted to the x16 PCIe slots which are split between the physical x16 PCIe slots with 8 lanes going to each.

    Yes, the A8N32 SLI is faster than the A8N SLI, but unless you're an absolute gaming freak, it's really hard to justify an extra $100 for a few FPS. You can either save that money or divert it toward some more powerful video cards instead which would likely be a better investment. I personally think a $200 motherboard that's not a server-class one is pretty expensive.
     
  11. JP4LSU

    JP4LSU Geek Trainee

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    Thanks for clearing that up BigB.
    Let me ask this. I'm leaning towards the Premium since you say it has the heatpipe in it, but if you are running 1 PCI-e card is it only using 8 pipes or is able to use all 16 pipes? Also will something like a 6800GT use all 16 pipes anyway?
     

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