My new PC 2008 :: Configuration(s) :: Need advice(s)

Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by Apollo1020, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. Apollo1020

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    I would like it to cost about $1000... but I want it on 2 or 4 years without upgrades...
     
  2. Apollo1020

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    Configuration 23:

    Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
    Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4400 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $135
    Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
    Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
    Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
    Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
    Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
    Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

    Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
    Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
    Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
    Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

    Total: $1825

    Need your comments. Thanks.
     
  3. Apollo1020

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    Configuration 24:

    Motherboard: ASUS, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
    Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0GHz, 4MB L2 cache, 1333MHz FSB) - $285
    Memory: GeIL, Value, 4x1GB (GX22GB8000DC, PC2-8000, DDR2-1000MHz) - $170
    Graphics Card 1: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Graphics Card 2: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Hard Drive 1: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
    Hard Drive 2: Seagate, Barracuda, 500GB (ST3500320AS, 32MB cache, 7200RPM) - $155
    Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
    Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
    Power Supply: be quiet!, Straight Power, 500W (BQT E5-500W) - $115

    Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $285
    Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
    Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $20
    Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

    Total: $1975

    Need your comments. Thanks.
     
  4. gazaway

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    Ah, but he posted it was the most mindfull of price. That means the best bang for your buck. The only time most users would see a difference with that cache would be mostly 3-d applications. And the amount of difference that the cache makes then is marginal. Therefore, you can spend $80 on a proc for a build that is "mindfull in price" or spend hundreds and get absolutely comparable results. Apollo already created his post for the performance rig(s) so I was showing him something of value since he asked how to shave it down.
     
  5. MercyFlush

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    yeah i have an E6700 and i overclocked it using nvidia's ntune program and i got it to add around 400mhz. my friend has an E6600 and it is basically just as as an E6700 if they are both at stock speeds. Too bad the E6750 wasn't available until about a week after i purchased my E6700 :( . but if you have the money, definetly try to get a E6600 or E6750
     
  6. MercyFlush

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    ok just saw that your latest config has a E6850. i would still reccommend upgrading the power supply to about 650 watts, which you can do and still keep the $115 price tag on the psu. i think that the 500 watt you have there may be stretching itself to run all of that, and it may be hard to upgrade in the future
     
  7. gazaway

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    Also, you don't want to crossfire on a p35 board. Get an x38.
     
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    wow i must seem like im obsessing with the power supply by now. but anyways i found 4 good ones for less money that have more power very quickly online.
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  9. max12590

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    I would definitely go for the Antec NeoPower. They have been nothing but good for me.
     
  10. MercyFlush

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    i have a thermaltake currently but i did have an antec and it was very good while i was using that old computer. i would also reccommend the antec
     
  11. Apollo1020

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    that sounds like it would be about right. but just in case its wrong, i would still go with a 600-650 watt psu. that way there should be no chance of needing to upgrade the power supply if it isnt enough. also if you want to upgrade its always good to have a bit extra
     
  13. Apollo1020

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    Configuration 25:

    Motherboard: Asus, P5K-E (Intel P35) - $140
    Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4600 (2.4GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $155
    Memory: Geil, 2x2GB (GX24GB6400DC, PC2-6400, DDR2-800MHz) - $115
    Graphics Card: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Hard Drive 1: Samsung, 400GB (HD403LJ, 16MB cache, 7200RPM) - $110
    Hard Drive 2: Samsung, 200GB (SP2004C, 8MB cache, 7200RPM) - $60
    Optical Drive: LG, GSA-H55N (20x, DVD+/-RW, DL, LightScribe) - $30
    Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
    Power Supply: be quiet!, 350W (BQT E5-350W) - $85

    Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $280
    Speakers: Edifier, R1900TII (2.0) - $85
    Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $15
    Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

    Total: $1010/$1400

    This configuration is pretty good, I think. Tell me your thoughts. Thanks.

    P.S. The first price is without peripherals, second with.
     
  14. gazaway

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    I'm guessing that since that's a 19'' display that you will be running at 1440x900 native or so. I would recommend upgrading that 3850 and spending another $20-30 and get a 3570. It'll have GDDR4 instead of GDDR3, and more memory for the high(ish) resolution.

    Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail it's $235, I would go for a higher priced one with a bit better cooler, but you get the idea.

    edit: The performance difference is actually quite huge, not sure why anyone would buy the 3850 now that the 3870 is only ~$30 more.. Here's a chart to compare (3850 and 3870 cards are blue, give it time to load Tom's Hardware has been slow last few days...) VGA Charts 2007 | Tom's Hardware
     
  15. Apollo1020

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    Acually, 19-inch displays have 1280x1024 of resolution. And, high resolution can only take few frames off... so that's not a big deal for a GPU. Thank in advice of Radeon HD 3870, but I think I'll keep Radeon HD 3850... no need in 512MB of video-RAM or GDDR4 for that configuration.

    But what will be your other thoughts? Is it stable enough? Thanks mate.
     
  16. gazaway

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    Dude, that's an even higher resolution than 1440x900(just assumed you were gonna go widescreen, 1440x900 is a widescreen 19'' resolution).. You do realise that the higher resolution you have to run a game at the more memory you need? Not to mention that higher texture games require more memory. For ~$20-30 you get like a 15-20% performance increase.. I don't see why you wouldn't jump on it, but I guess it's your choice lol.

    And ya, it'll be stable (Hard to match hardware now a days that isn't.)
     
  17. Apollo1020

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    Configuration 26:

    Motherboard: Asus, P5K-E/WiFi-AP (Intel P35) - $165
    Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4400 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $135
    Memory: Geil, 2x2GB (GX24GB6400DC, PC2-6400, DDR2-800MHz) - $115
    Graphics Card: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Hard Drive: Seagate, 500GB (ST3500630AS, 16MB cache, 7200RPM) - $150
    Optical Drive: Samsung, DVD+/-RW DL (SH-S203B, 20x) - $30
    Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
    Power Supply: be quiet!, 400W (BQT E5-400W) - $85

    Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $280
    Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
    Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $15
    Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

    Total: $995/$1380

    Need your comments... thanks.

    P.S. I'll let you know what configuration will be final... then I'll buy it.
     
  18. Apollo1020

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    I haven't buyed my new PC yet, but I need help on how to maintain an internet connection from it in future.

    Right now I'm using my old PC from my room, which is connected to a server PC in other room by a TV cable with DOCSIS 2.0 technology. I'm sure, that the cable is plugged here in a network card or something like that.

    What types of internet connection I will be able to choose from? Current - then I'll need a network card in my new PC... or IEEE1394, which is FireWire or Gigabit LAN? My motherboard will also have a WiFi feature...

    Please help me on with it and tell me what should I do, when I'll buy my new PC to set up a proper home network and internet from my room. Thank you.

    Edite: What are the other methods/types of connections available? What the better ones?
     
  19. MercyFlush

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    if you want a wired connection, then your motherboard should have a built in network port that should usually be good for most internet and networking uses, and if not, you can buy pci networking cards for just a few dollars. another option is to buy a wireless router if you dont already have one. and while the wireless built onto the motherboard is good for standard internet browsing, dont expect to be playing current games with a low latency. if you can though, i would recommend a wired connection, as they are usually easier to set up and also can be more stable, without the chance that a neighbor will be stealing your internet bandwidth on a wireless connection
     
  20. Apollo1020

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    Configuration 27:

    Motherboard: Asus, P5K-E/WiFi-AP (Intel P35) - $165
    Processor: Intel, Core 2 Duo E4400 (2.0GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) - $135
    Memory: Geil, 2x2GB (GX24GB6400DC, PC2-6400, DDR2-800MHz) - $115
    Graphics Card: Sapphire, Radeon HD 3850 (21121-00-20R, GDDR3-256MB) - $215
    Hard Drive 1: Samsung, 400GB (HD403LJ, 16MB cache, 7200RPM) - $110
    Hard Drive 2: Samsung, 200GB (SP2004C, 8MB cache, 7200RPM) - $60
    Optical Drive: Samsung, DVD+/-RW DL (SH-S203B, 20x) - $30
    Chassis: Cooler Master, Centurion 534+ (3x120mm - front, rear, side) - $100
    Power Supply: be quiet!, 400W (BQT E5-400W) - $85

    Display: LG, Flatron L1954TQ (19-inch, TN) - $280
    Speakers: Edifier, R1900TIII (2.0) - $80
    Keyboard: Pleomax, PKB-4500 (USB, multimedia) - $15
    Mouse: Logitech, RX250 (USB, optical) - $10

    Total: $1015/$1400

    Need your comments... thanks.

    P.S. Have got back to two HDDs because I don't really want to separate a single HDD... instead, I want C:\ 400GB and D:\ 200GB... I think, that Samsung is a right choice for that. C:\ for programs and games (software) and D:\ for music and video clips.
     

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