new build - specs - please assist!

Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by n0chi, Jul 25, 2005.

  1. max12590

    max12590 Masterful Geek

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    Yea I put some of that in a computer thats about to come back to me. Mine was DDR2. Pretty good stuff.
     
  2. n0chi

    n0chi Geek Trainee

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    talking about kingston or geil??

    also, is there ddr2 for amd?
     
  3. Exfoliate

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    No DDR2 for AMD, and there is no forseen launch date for this either, the Geil is great for the price and if you really do want to get some serious overclocking in but you don't want to spend much money I imagine it would serve you well. Though the latency leaves a lot to be desired it's not uncommon for memory of the speed.
     
  4. n0chi

    n0chi Geek Trainee

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    after more adjusting (downgrading lol) this is what the system looks like:

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    $84 | Antec Solution SLK1650B Black Steel ATX Mini Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply – Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129150
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    $150 | AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Integrated into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103536
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    $111 | EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard – Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236
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    $55 | HITACHI Deskstar 7K80 HDS728080PLA380 -0A30356 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA II Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822145082
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    $43 | SAMSUNG Black 16X DVD+R 4X DVD+RW 5X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-R 4X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151066
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    $167 | Leadtek PX6600GT TDH Geforce 6600GT 128MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122201
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    $96 | Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retailhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141423
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    $45 | Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 80mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink – Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106036
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    Total: $750.00

    mostly these are based on anandtech reviews and your suggestions :) im posting these as i think they make a pretty decent budget gaming system, and i hope they help someone else out as well.

    the idea is that, the hardware will be good enough for the 350w psu that comes with the case, and it will also give me a little room for slight overclocking.

    cheers :)
     
  5. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    thats not really a budget system in specs but will make you very happy to say the least, but when you can afford it get a better PSU!
     
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  6. n0chi

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    yea im just going to see how the case psu looks. cause i saw a few comments saying that they actually upgraded it. its a 24pin psu now, with 2 separate 12V rails - 1 with 10A and the other 15A.

    if that doesnt look good enough... i might go for a...

    Thermaltake Silent PurePower TT-420AD(DUAL FAN) ATX 420W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, CE – Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153006

    ...in the near future. but im not sure how much better that would be, cause it just has a single 12 v rail of 18A. but i guess its still better cause its 420w, instead of 350?
     
  7. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    that thermaltake one would be perfect, but its not all about wattage its about how 'clean' the power is too, for example i saw a PSU that someone wanted to buy
    and it had a single 37Amp rail, thats pretty powerful!
    but good luck with your persuits!
     
  8. n0chi

    n0chi Geek Trainee

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    is there any reason for a dual 12v rail, if my gfx card doesnt need a separate powerline to it anyways?

    i mean, what else can the 12v rail plug into?
     
  9. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    To put it simply the 12V rail is not literal, its not a seperate plug it provides 2 virtual routes of power to the components, make sense?
    eg, the comp will use the first rail and when that is exceeded the second rail kicks in to provide more power!
    Im pretty sure thats the best i can explain it!
     
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  10. Exfoliate

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    The Thermaltake looks great, go with that as it's a great deal. My rig probably comsumes about as much or more power and I only have 17A on the 12v rail.
     
  11. n0chi

    n0chi Geek Trainee

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    so then would you still reccomend that i upgrade the psu ex?

    the one with the case is 350w, w/ 2 12v rails (10a, 15a) :cool:
     
  12. zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG

    zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak

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    id recommend to up the PSU it'll perfrom around 250-300 on full load and definately will not provide enough power in my opinion

    id recommend a 450W and up PSU, by a good name

    so theres no risks :good:
     
  13. Exfoliate

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    There's little difference between a 450w and 420wt psu so I say upgrade to the Thermaltake as it's a very good value. I should perform better than the Antec as the dual rails are lacking high amps.
     
  14. max12590

    max12590 Masterful Geek

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    The Antec with the case is probably better than the Thermaltake. But I would still recommend you up the PSU, but theraltake is not where I'd go.
     
  15. n0chi

    n0chi Geek Trainee

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    the case psu should be good enough for me to run everything at stock - right?

    i feel like i will not oc or anything and let all the parts "burn in" for a while :p and then maybe in a month of 2 get a new psu and then experiment :)

    haha.
     
  16. zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG

    zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak

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    it might but its not assured, or recommended by us, it seems like a small amount of power for that many good parts
     
  17. Exfoliate

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    Antec has some of the better psu's, I can be pretty sure you're system will not require more than 250wts so you have some clearence. If you want to save a bit of money in the short run buring it in won't hurt. You may be so satasfied with the performance you won't care about overclocking.
     
  18. n0chi

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    as your on the subject of power supplies, what about the q-tec ones, does anybody know if they're any good, they are cheap which is a concern of mine as this could mean cheap parts/bad build quality and could lead to more system crashes, i need something along the lines of a 450-500Watt unit for future upgrades as well. My 300Watt just cant cut it with verious fans coolers, lights, 2 optical drives, a hard drive a PCI saudigy sound card and basic geforce graphics card (plus mobo, cpu and ram)
    If not then i'll splash out the money for one of the tagan 480Watt units.
     
  20. max12590

    max12590 Masterful Geek

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    I recommend you go for the Tagan. they are very, very good PSU's. The Q-Tec's have a bad reputation.
     
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