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Could somebody please tell me the differance between the Springdale and the Canterwood.

And for someone who is using a PC for gaming only which is best?
If you could I dont mean SD or CW but which actual model.

If it was for myself id just go top of the range all the way on the board but ive gotta fit a good graphics card into the budget too. The FX5600 just aint good enough.

Also, with dual ddr can you just throw in any old ddr sticks or have they gotta be the ones you buy in pairs?

ie.... http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_OCZ_144.html
see how some are sold in pairs and some singles. Can I get two singles (matching of course) and use those?

Which do you think is best? 512mbs of Corsair xms 3200, 512mbs of OCZ pc3500 or 1gb of twinmos pc3700. They are all about the same price.

The system will probably be overclocked a bit, but as its for a non computer guy it has gotta be a stable as tabletop mountain itself.

Its for watching porn and playing new games...... thats what I was told to build.

Cheers guys.....
 
Canterwood and Springdale are the same chipset, except that Canterwood has PAT--Performance Accelerated Technology, and this is the only difference on paper that anyone has noticed.

Budgetwise for a good card, I've been seeing GF4 Ti4800s running around $200. Radeon 9500/9600's are in that same range as well. The Ti4800 is a Ti4600 with AGP 8x implementation.

For matched sticks, I'm honestly not sure. I'll have to check up on that one and see what I can find out. I will say, you can't go wrong buying matched sticks.

Speaking of, OCZ has a very poor reputation. Some people say they've gotten better. However, the sheer amount of negative feedback on their service and products makes me think twice about purchasing anything they put out.
Corsair probably has the best RAM you can buy, but you've probably seen it's a bit more than other brands. I have been seeing good stuff about Kingston's (or is it Kingmax---I can't remember off the top of my head) HyperX DDR.
I've really not heard enough about TwinMOS to know anything. The little I've heard seems to indicate they're pretty good.
Personally, I've found Samsung to be good as well. Nothing fancy to cover the sticks like Corsair does, but high quality nonetheless.

You can get 2 singles and use them. They're just sold in pairs to make purchasing more convinent, as far as I can tell. Just go for whatever option turns out to be cheaper if there is any difference.
 
Thanks for your reply.
I did go to dansdata ages back but never bookmarked it.

Whilst doing a search I kinda found my answer.

can I post it? courtesy of dansdata....

Springdale is the mass market chipset. The base Springdale flavour, the 865PE, supports P4s up to and including the "C" models, dual channel DDR memory up to DDR400 speed (but not ECC RAM), and the now-standard AGP 8X. It's also got Intel's "Communications Streaming Architecture", a separate bus just for a Gigabit Ethernet controller. This ought to actually significantly improve Gigabit Ethernet throughput, provided the devices at each end of the connection can actually pump more data than they could through a PCI Gigabit controller.

If you're not connecting your PC to a Gigabit network - and, today, you're probably not - then CSA won't do anything but take some load off PCI.

The 865PE chipset also natively supports USB 2.0 and IEEE-1394 (FireWire and fancy multichannel audio and a number of other things that practically every motherboard these days supports, but which always get listed anyway, because a mobo ain't a mobo if its feature list doesn't go on and on like a Russian novel.

There's also an 865G integrated-graphics version of Springdale, with the usual "3D? What 3D?" level of gaming performance. Yes, Intel have an Extreme Name for the graphics adapter, but it'll still be beaten senseless by any current budget 3D card. It's got more than enough power for office work, though.

There's also a mildly cut-down "865P" chipset, which has all the 865PE fruit except for 800MHz FSB and DDR400 memory support.

And then, there's Canterwood. It's got everything Springdale's got, plus a couple of little extras.

One of them is Intel's "Performance Acceleration Technology" (PAT), which is a definite candidate for the John Smith Most Generic Name Award.

PAT shaves off some memory access clock cycles to give a measurable, but not very significant, improvement in speed (less than 10% at best, for real world tasks, and usually less than 5%), if you're using Dual DDR400 memory and an 800MHz-bus P4. If you aren't, it does nothing. And, as it turns out, the more modules you have, the less it does, generally speaking. PAT isn't worth getting very excited about.

If you want to build a server, or just drop serious dollars on pushing the maximum-RAM envelope, you'll be pleased to learn that i875 supports ECC RAM. I don't think any ECC DDR400 memory's available yet, though.

And that's it for Canterwood's extras over Springdale, except for the fact that Canterwood chips have, we're told, passed the test that Springdale failed. This means they're, in theory at least, better silicon, and may therefore be good for higher clock speeds. Thus far, there's been no evidence to suggest that there's actually a significant difference.



As for the graphics card......
A powercolour (who?) 9700pro.
Its a very cheap model and bencmarks a treat.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzcz
 
Ive finally done it!!
A great comp for about a £1200
Well £1218.35
Thats with monitor, keyboard, mouse the lot.

IC7 Canterwood
512mbs Corsair xms3500
P4c 2.4ghz
9700pro
Seagate Barracuda 80gb SATA
Samsung CD-RW/DVD ROM drive
Creative SoundBlaster 5.1 digital
Creative 5100 speakers (5.1)
Mitsubishi 17" flat screen monitor
Thermaltake xaserIII Case
Q-Tec 400w Dual Fan Gold plated PSU
and Microsoft cordless keyboard and mouse.

The fsb should go to 220 min and still be stable (from what ive read) The RAM clocks in at 217mhz so its all on the CPU.
Ill probably just clock it to 2.6ghz.

For £1218.35. Damn cheap seeing as its all UK parts.
I still havent overclocked or benchmarked one of these 800mhz CPUs, I cant bloody wait!
Nice case too......
thermaltake_v1000a.jpg
 
Originally posted by -=Sniper=-
nice, are you buying this from a local store or online, my local store is onine also http://www.microdirect.co.uk they have cheap stuff...:)
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its cheap alright..... Im gonna buy this stuff from there instead. Im looking at it being about £100 cheaper, if not more!

cheers dude!
 
during this past weekend they had everything on trade prices...I dont think they will do that again for sometime...:)
 
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