I guess the NDA has lifted on VIA's new P4 chipsets as there's a bunch of coverage on them today. You can check it out at the following links: AnandTech [H]ard|OCP Hexus Hot Hardware PC Perspective The one thing you might be intrested in is that the PT880 natively supports both AGP 8x and PCIe x16 slots. Now, it'd be nice to see them put out an Athlon chipset with the same features, but I don't know if we'll see that. Anyway, if you're a P4 fiend, then you really need to read this stuff.