ok here we go again have been to another pc fayre tonight & purchased some more memory(pc133) 512 mb this time . on installing it on it's own i tried all 4 slots and could only get it to register @127mb i thought the earlier post with half memory was bad enough but now it's down to quarter ! yes this geek parted with £43 for what in effect is a memory increase of 96mb , do i feel robbed or what . also picked up a 6 port usb hub (internal) and on trying to install this found i need another lead , have not seen anything like this before but it connects the hub through a plug & play thingy to the existing usb port . if all this isn't bad enough have bought a cd writer (don't yet know if it works , too scared to try ! ) and on mt return while i have been out had a post recommening not too waste money upgrading current relic , wish i'ld stayed at home instead now ! :spin: :confused: :swear: